Wingmaster Falconry

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

Anyone ever heard of this guy?

He claims to breed the following.......

and heres alist of birds we breed here!!!! you are gona be told all about our birds

yesterday a wesh hawking club member was here to purchase a female gyrsaker and was impressed and has booked 2 more

so dream on

GYR/SAKERS blacks and whites and silvers
SAKERS pure
PERE/GYR/SAKERS
PERE/SAKERS
PEREGRINES scots.peals
LANNERS pure
PERE/LANNERS
GYR BLACK new pair

RED-TAIL HAWKS
HARRIS HAWKS
COOPERS HAWKS
GOSHAWKS finnish/german

TAWNY EAGLES new breeding pair

all kept on our farm deep in the cotswold vale

what do you breed?

also our adds for the sale of unwanted birds and needed extra birds only same a terry gets extra birds from there at times
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[Kennelre]

[QUOTE=AyrshireTaxidermy;1270085]Anyone ever heard of this guy?

I thought you clarified just the other day who it was...so you already know.:confused:


...Rene.

[Saker-Clive]

Rob, you know who they are as you've been having a slagging match with him on another list. he also is banned on here for now and goes by White Gyr!!!!!

Are you refering to Black Gyr on Falcons UK?

[Kentish Falconry]

Anyone ever heard of this guy?

He claims to breed the following.......

and heres alist of birds we breed here!!!! you are gona be told all about our birds

yesterday a wesh hawking club member was here to purchase a female gyrsaker and was impressed and has booked 2 more

so dream on

GYR/SAKERS blacks and whites and silvers
SAKERS pure
PERE/GYR/SAKERS
PERE/SAKERS
PEREGRINES scots.peals
LANNERS pure
PERE/LANNERS
GYR BLACK new pair

RED-TAIL HAWKS
HARRIS HAWKS
COOPERS HAWKS
GOSHAWKS finnish/german

TAWNY EAGLES new breeding pair

all kept on our farm deep in the cotswold vale

what do you breed?

also our adds for the sale of unwanted birds and needed extra birds only same a terry gets extra birds from there at times
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If by Terry he is referring to me I don't buy birds from Bird Trader and have used the site once to buy in birds. He seems to know more about my business than I do :confused:
Terry :)

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

I do know who he is, but i wondered of anyone else knows him. He seems to be a big breeder, tho i cant find anyone that had bought a bird from him.
Yeh Terry, he means you.
Hes on falcons uk as black gyr.

[Barnaby]

think i spowk to that chap a bawt a coopers hark ??? cood b the saem 1

he had evry think he sed :confused:

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

So he says, did you see them?

[Barnaby]

So he says, did you see them?
na he sed thay wer 1500 for the femaels . i laft and sed ta ta

and he breds af goses and wonts 1500 a femael for them as wel

he sed he wos the ownly persun that breds them ???

funy cos i no 2 uver pepol lol

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

maybe hes buying them elsewhere, sticking on a few quid and hoping to sell them on. Kinda like what he does with the free birds he scrounges from birdtrader.

[Barnaby]

maybe hes buying them elsewhere, sticking on a few quid and hoping to sell them on. Kinda like what he does with the free birds he scrounges from birdtrader.

:?: may b . woodunt liek to say

but i think its a bit mor than a few quid lol

[AndyHawks]

na he sed thay wer 1500 for the femaels . i laft and sed ta ta

and he breds af goses and wonts 1500 a femael for them as wel

he sed he wos the ownly persun that breds them ???

funy cos i no 2 uver pepol lol
is that him bloody hell!!

[Barnaby]

is that him bloody hell!!

think it is maet it sawnds the saem to me .. cood b rong , but i think its him

[AndyHawks]

think it is maet it sawnds the saem to me .. cood b rong , but i think its him
maybe i should put my prices up lol.only joking.rather a good home than the money.

[White Gyr]

Nice edited post rob (to your words!!)

and no terry not you (why the hell would you need to buy birds)

never sold coopers at £1500!!! females are £800 ish but just sold our breeding female (ON BIRDTRADER) as male was lost

never sold a single bird that has been rehomed rob so thats another lie from you

in fact the black gyr you keep telling everyone about is sat next to me as i post this
he came to us from a well known breeder and was very under weight had a broken toe and is blind in one eye!! he has gone under vet treatment and is now back to weight and the toe looks good now

he will be put to breeding now !!

the bird (3/4 black ) we sold on birdtrader was NOT the same bird, this bird was not so black and had toes missing and was sold to a IFF member for breeding as we wanted darker birds

as others said rab!! you know who we are!!! and just a week or so ago took our advice and changed your woodshavings for gravel and re built your screens to a better standard

now after this you tell others to ignor our advice yet you did not!! seems a bit strange

to top all this rob has told many that we dont breed BOP and that we just purchase cheap birds or get them free and sell them on this is of coarse un true

only ever had 3 birds free of charge and they are all still here!!! one is 14yrs old now

the only birds we sell is home bred young or birds we dont need or dont fit in to our plans simple as that

for the record!!! its not us that had a problem with ROB he had a problem with us!!!! and bombarded us with private emails and pms and thats why we kicked off a bit

he is now banned from FQ due to his rants at us!! and we were told this via a phone call from john at yarak himself

you post edited (by you) posts we have made to try win over the members on every forum (it back fired on FQ)

yes you are doing great with your birds but so are many others on the forums you have only been doing this for 29mths now but you insist you know more than anyone when it comes to the birds

anyone on here will say that even people that have 20yrs in this hobby are STILL learning every day about their hobby

you realy need to stop your rants buddy its making out you are obsessed about us

and just to point out "WINGMASTER" falconry has been us for over 8yrs now just clear that up as you told us that you knew another falconer that was called wingmaster? but never backed up this claim when asked!

sorry for the rant but he is starting to be a right pain in the neck:lol:

[White Gyr]

would just like to ask one more question???

who ever told you we were BIG breeders???? we didn't:rolleyes:

yes we breed our own birds from time to time, but not all breed year in year out like many other breeders
(cash, £££££, cash!!!)

any cash we make goes straight back to the birds simple as that its not for personal profit

most of the people that have purchased birds hate this forum and what it does to others, we talk to buyers not just sell birds to any tom dick or harry!!!

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

You told us you were big breeders, when you posted this.

and heres alist of birds we breed here!!!! you are gona be told all about our birds

yesterday a wesh hawking club member was here to purchase a female gyrsaker and was impressed and has booked 2 more

so dream on

GYR/SAKERS blacks and whites and silvers
SAKERS pure
PERE/GYR/SAKERS
PERE/SAKERS
PEREGRINES scots.peals
LANNERS pure
PERE/LANNERS
GYR BLACK new pair

RED-TAIL HAWKS
HARRIS HAWKS
COOPERS HAWKS
GOSHAWKS finnish/german

TAWNY EAGLES new breeding pair

all kept on our farm deep in the cotswold vale

What terry did you mean when you posted this?

also our adds for the sale of unwanted birds and needed extra birds only same a terry gets extra birds from there at times

The time i take advice from you, is the time i will eat my own vomit. Your basic husbandry leaves a lot to be desired, so where you get the idea that i changed my screens cos of you, i have no clue.
My problem with you started when you tried to foll us all with a photo of a GS sat on a Magpie on your lawn, then you went into a whole story of how good he was at catching it. Utter ********.

29 months, big deal!!!! In that time i have packed in more experience than half the folk on here, if not more. A hell of a lot more than you.

On another forum, i have asked you to say which friend of mine has 2 birds from you, you declined to answer, cos you cant. You seemed to insinuate that you know where i got Swift from, you havent a clue.
You still claim you know best about shavings, even tho you have seen a photo from a well known breeders website showing a tiercel on shavings. That breeder is probably the NO 1 in the country, i think he knows best.

As far as FQ is concerned, that a forum purely for the purpose of massaging johns ego. Im glad told him a few home truths and got banned. Infact if i try to log on, im redirected to the IFF.

So, get over yourself Gay Gilder, face the facts. Your not a big breeder, you probably havent bred a bird in your life. You dont own any Gyrs, and your not likely to. You posted about height restrictions from your local council meaning you couldnt build any pens, then went on to explain that you got round this by digging down and having the pen half underground. It doesnt take Inspector Poirot to deduce that what you actually did was bulid a pen over one of your old Koi ponds. You must think we are all as thick as you.

Anyway, you seem to chap and change from one thing to the next every few months, fish spiders birds. So i look forward to the time when you go and do something else and leave this falconry forum to falconers.

ps......How many ads have you actually had on birdtrader in the last month? Not to mention the ones you have on the free ads sites elsewhere. Be a devil and spend a tenner on the IBR website.

[Pearl]

i think its safe to say you two dont get on then :rolleyes:

[White Gyr]

WOODSHAVINGS!!!! ask any falconer

Asper spores are present in most shavings sold for horse and pets!! more so when used in damp out buildings such as yours

listen there are penty of folk seen our breeding and working birds!! and our husbandry is by far cleaner and better than yours

you said it yourself (IN A BIG HEADED WAY) you have more knowledge than most on here

that comment sucks mate and has probably turned alot against you on here what a foolish attitude to take on a forum packed with real experts that have been in the game for 20+yrs

for your info we wanted to build 15ft tall flights and this was rejected!! the sunken flights? yes the first was built over a 6ft deep koi pond to give a 10ft hight, since we have built 4 more as it was a fantastic idea by another forum member

not at any point on any forum or add have we said we were big breeders!!!

just because we have 1 maybe 2 pairs of EACH of the birds listed dont make us big time breeders!! if we had 10 or so pairs of each then yes!!!LOL

!!!!!!!!!you are gona be told all about our birds !!!!

THIS WAS NEVER WRITEN BY US!!! THIS IS YOUR OWN EDIT MATE

So what you have said is that woodshavings are 100% SAFE???? for BOP, even when you were sent a link about them!!

You also state that you probably know MORE THAN ANY OTHER FALCONER ABOUT FALCONRY ON THIS FORUM

YOU ARE DEFFO TOP DOLLAR MATE " STAR OF THE FORUM"

your true big headed colours are slowly showing through that mask!!

[White Gyr]

yesterday a wesh hawking club member was here to purchase a female gyrsaker and was impressed and has booked 2 more

so dream on

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:roll:
and was impressed and has booked 2 more

so dream on


THIS IS ALSO ROBS PERSONAL EDITED ADD IN!!!!!

[Kennelre]

I haven't a clue what's going on here but I would have to say that when White Gyr was banned I didn't miss him...or 'them' or whoever it/they are.:roll:
I can't see any need to keep making posts, and starting threads, as if you/he/they are the be all and end all of falconry. At one point he/they reckoned to work for JPJ...so what's the truth? Actually, I ask the question in an idle moment as I don't really have any interest in the answer.
There are a number of posts/threads that he/they have made that I personally considered to be suspect...but people invent themselves in cyberspace and don't accept invitations to provide evidence of the truth. Altogether boring really. This games playing is altogether boring.


...Rene.

[AyrshireTaxidermy]

Oh maaaaan

WOODSHAVINGS!!!! ask any falconer

Asper spores are present in most shavings sold for horse and pets!! more so when used in damp out buildings such as yours
How the hell do you know if my building is damp?

listen there are penty of folk seen our breeding and working birds!! and our husbandry is by far cleaner and better than yours

Name some

you said it yourself (IN A BIG HEADED WAY) you have more knowledge than most on here

No, if you look back, i said experience.

that comment sucks mate and has probably turned alot against you on here what a foolish attitude to take on a forum packed with real experts that have been in the game for 20+yrs

See above

for your info we wanted to build 15ft tall flights and this was rejected!! the sunken flights? yes the first was built over a 6ft deep koi pond to give a 10ft hight, since we have built 4 more as it was a fantastic idea by another forum member

What you breeding, Giraffes?

not at any point on any forum or add have we said we were big breeders!!!

300 birds i remember saying you bred, isnt that big?

just because we have 1 maybe 2 pairs of EACH of the birds listed dont make us big time breeders!! if we had 10 or so pairs of each then yes!!!LOL

!!!!!!!!!you are gona be told all about our birds !!!!

THIS WAS NEVER WRITEN BY US!!! THIS IS YOUR OWN EDIT MATE

Want me to make you look sillier and point folk to where you said that?

So what you have said is that woodshavings are 100% SAFE???? for BOP, even when you were sent a link about them!!

No, i said that if they are good enough for falconmews, they are good enough for me.

You also state that you probably know MORE THAN ANY OTHER FALCONER ABOUT FALCONRY ON THIS FORUM

Show me where i said that.

YOU ARE DEFFO TOP DOLLAR MATE " STAR OF THE FORUM"

Why thankyou.

your true big headed colours are slowly showing through that mask!!

Whats a big headed colour......Purple?

[HallBeck]

The public airing of conflicts and other dirty washing does not do anyone any favours.

Come on guys - pack it in!

[White Gyr]

i think its safe to say you two dont get on then :rolleyes:

what ever gave you that idea:lol::lol::rolleyes:

thing is i get on with anyone!!! rob just seems to have an obsession with making himself great on forums be trying to b'little others that have a good amount of years behind them in falconry

thats just the sort of member you dont need!!! when there are alot of newbies signing up looking for help and advice

and all said and done rob is a "newbie also"

[Harris]

This petty argument has gone on long enough! and will not be tolerated on the open forum any longer! it either stops here or both parties will receive a Ban!

[SparkleBee]

Great thread.

[White Gyr]

No problem Simon!! lets just see if he can stop making comments on every post we make???????????????:lol:

we are more than willing to stop:roll:

This petty argument has gone on long enough! and will not be tolerated on the open forum any longer! it either stops here or both parties will receive a Ban!

[Gary F]

Great thread.

class mate, pure class:supz:

[David Rampling]

Ow, don't spoil it Simon! It's a crackin read...

[TLDWB]

No problem Simon!! lets just see if he can stop making comments on every post we make???????????????:lol:

we are more than willing to stop:roll:

Who is we?

Tom

[HunterPaul]

top thread top thread top thread.... no bans please and dont close it... Plleaaase...

[Kennelre]

Who is we?

Tom

Royalty?
Dissociative identity Disorder??
Multiple shared user name???


...Rene.

[White Gyr]

Who is we?

Tom

we is x 4 and we are having a great laugh!! :lol::lol::lol:

but to be fair its got a bit over the top now:roll:

[HunterPaul]

we is x 4 and we are having a great laugh!! :lol::lol::lol:

but to be fair its got a bit over the top now:roll:

at whose expense???????

[Foxy1]

we is x 4 and we are having a great laugh!! :lol::

but to be fair its got a bit over the top now:roll:

And yet your still talking...:roll:

[NoMoon]

at whose expense???????

falconers, wanna buy a intermewed passage rainbow boa,:lol:im banned off fq to mate,;-):lol:

[White Gyr]

at whose expense???????

robs i would think?:rolleyes: but then there is alot more on here to laugh at than just him:lol::roll:

[White Gyr]

And yet your still talking...:roll:

yes talking!!!! not having a slanging match!!

you a bit wet up there? bet the wind will dry you lot out:lol:

[HunterPaul]

robs i would think?:rolleyes: but then there is alot more on here to laugh at than just him:lol::roll:

no wonder you are mr popular on here... nice to have you back... since chrissy went we needed a village idiot....

[Foxy1]

robs i would think?:rolleyes: but then there is alot more on here to laugh at than just him:lol::roll:

yet another post that can be safely filed under P for Pish. care to share anything even vaguely Falconry related?

[Foxy1]

no wonder you are mr popular on here... nice to have you back... since chrissy went we needed a village idiot....
:supz::supz::supz:

[Foxy1]

yes talking!!!! not having a slanging match!!

you a bit wet up there? bet the wind will dry you lot out:lol:

Contradict yourself much?

[TLDWB]

no wonder you are mr popular on here... nice to have you back... since chrissy went we needed a village idiot....

Spot on Paul, sounds like his birds make all the right moves as well, in the back garden on magpies.:D

Tom

[Harris]

Sorry guys this has turned into a pile of...Pish :yawinkle: