Male Gishawk

[PeelsBells]

Four weeks ago i lost my male harris.I had Marshalls telemetry on the bird just put in new batteries.The bird went in to the tops of the trees and then came crashing through chasing a squirral.That was the last i seen of him.
I received no signal from my telemetry, i waited under the trees till dark and went back first light. Nothing. I put an advert in the local paper which did an article on the birds as its from my breeding pair as i fly them as a cast every season(Get told every season i shouldn't fly my pair iwish i would have listened).The bird has a stainless stell ring on and is micro- chipped.
I've had a good responce of people seeing sparrow hawks and buzzards but only a couple of my harris, everything has gone silent now. I'm gutted as its the first bird i have owned and had him from a 12 week old. He is 9 years now.
I just carnt under stand how the bird has dissappeared when i live near housing estates and the bird is very social, I've got a gut feeling someone has found him and giving him a new home, which breaks my heart as the bond between me and the bird(propably just on my side)was so strong.I live in the Manchester/Stockport area a place called Dukinfield.
Whilst the advert was in the paper i was at work and the wife got a phone call, The person said they had found my bird.The wife rushed round and she phone my up saying its not my bird but i've brought it home. I rushed out of work finishing early and when i got home their it was a male goshawk sat on the bow perch in the garden.
I couldn't beleive it the guy had said it had hit its window, and was a little shook up, I took it in and had a look at a cut on its crop bathed it and put some wound compond on.
All i could think about was shall i hand it in as it had rings on and was this years bird, some one else some were will be gutted. The bird weighed 2lb 5oz fat as a pig and had jesses and loop leash still attached with one of thoughs 11p swivels attached to its legs.
Sat and thought about the concequences of keeping the bird as i want to fly anotherr gos. But in the end decided to phone DEFRA and tell them i had the bird and give them the ring nubers. I received a phone call some hours later.It was the birds owner give him my address and him came and picked it up (THE GUY DIDNT EVEN SAY THANKS) he just said he lost it last night.
I am just writing this thread as i have done a good turn can some one help me????????
I will give a reward!
I would like some advice as well if i would i have kept the bird would i have been breaking and laws. As i will think long and hard about returning birds in the future if this is what some falconers are like. Manners and a bit of apprecation dont go a miss.

I am just one ****-- o-- falconer who is a bit bitter at the moment.

[Moses]

Four weeks ago i lost my male harris.I had Marshalls telemetry on the bird just put in new batteries.The bird went in to the tops of the trees and then came crashing through chasing a squirral.That was the last i seen of him.
I received no signal from my telemetry, i waited under the trees till dark and went back first light. Nothing. I put an advert in the local paper which did an article on the birds as its from my breeding pair as i fly them as a cast every season(Get told every season i shouldn't fly my pair iwish i would have listened).The bird has a stainless stell ring on and is micro- chipped.
I've had a good responce of people seeing sparrow hawks and buzzards but only a couple of my harris, everything has gone silent now. I'm gutted as its the first bird i have owned and had him from a 12 week old. He is 9 years now.
I just carnt under stand how the bird has dissappeared when i live near housing estates and the bird is very social, I've got a gut feeling someone has found him and giving him a new home, which breaks my heart as the bond between me and the bird(propably just on my side)was so strong.I live in the Manchester/Stockport area a place called Dukinfield.
Whilst the advert was in the paper i was at work and the wife got a phone call, The person said they had found my bird.The wife rushed round and she phone my up saying its not my bird but i've brought it home. I rushed out of work finishing early and when i got home their it was a male goshawk sat on the bow perch in the garden.
I couldn't beleive it the guy had said it had hit its window, and was a little shook up, I took it in and had a look at a cut on its crop bathed it and put some wound compond on.
All i could think about was shall i hand it in as it had rings on and was this years bird, some one else some were will be gutted. The bird weighed 2lb 5oz fat as a pig and had jesses and loop leash still attached with one of thoughs 11p swivels attached to its legs.
Sat and thought about the concequences of keeping the bird as i want to fly anotherr gos. But in the end decided to phone DEFRA and tell them i had the bird and give them the ring nubers. I received a phone call some hours later.It was the birds owner give him my address and him came and picked it up (THE GUY DIDNT EVEN SAY THANKS) he just said he lost it last night.
I am just writing this thread as i have done a good turn can some one help me????????
I will give a reward!
I would like some advice as well if i would i have kept the bird would i have been breaking and laws. As i will think long and hard about returning birds in the future if this is what some falconers are like. Manners and a bit of apprecation dont go a miss.

I am just one ****-- o-- falconer who is a bit bitter at the moment.


mate so saddened to hear that and that other falconer whos gos u took in is a ungrateful b@stard i have to say, not even saying thanks

[Dave G]

andy im really sorry you have lost your bird and wish you all the best in finding him,i do know how it feels as this happend to me thanx to a school teacher who took the time to ring around and get in the end in touch with the i.b.r who rang me and i was able to catch him up as he was a little over weight, the teacher who saw him rang the rspca who said leave him he will find its way back home :( she wasnt having none of that as she knew it belonged to someone as it had jessess on so she rang a local vet who luckly gave her the i.b.r number who then contacted me ,so i do hope andy you get him back and have a good thread to put up on his return ,as for the chap with the goss what a ****** makes your blood boil ,as i couldnt thank the lady enough who went to alot of trouble to contact the right people a box of chocs and a big bunch of flowers went straight to her house the next day,just one more thing ive heard there is another lost harris in manchester as a chap had his aweek and flying it with his welders glove and lost it read a few books watched a video on harris hawks a brought one no questions asked by the breeder :( all the best on your birds return andy

[Osiris]

Soooooooo sorry to hear your story m8. Its really sadenning to hear things like this. I would help ya out but i aint anywhere near you m8 but if i was i'd be the first to come and help. Don't like loosing my own birds and dont like other people loosing theirs. Just don't give up hope m8. I hope u get him back real soon :cry:

Jamie :-|

[Jazz1]

Sorry to hear about your Harris i know how it feels.Me and my mate who fly Harris's together lost 1 of our young male's 2weeks ago now.The same as yourself 1min he was there the next gone the farmer has phoned 2/3 times saying he is at the farm but i think it's buzz,s he is seeing because it's only 2mins away in the car and by the time get there he is know where to be seen but you never know finger crossed 1 of these times it will be him.Has for the guy with the Gos what a A** hole.If he can't even say thank you should't have the bird in the first place just show's how glad he was to get him back just make's you think if there was a next time would you phone or not but like you if someone was to find our harris i would hope they would try and find out where he was from.
Best of luck Gary

[Kanati]

Four weeks ago i lost my male harris.I had Marshalls telemetry on the bird just put in new batteries.The bird went in to the tops of the trees and then came crashing through chasing a squirral.That was the last i seen of him.
I received no signal from my telemetry, i waited under the trees till dark and went back first light. Nothing. .

I hope I'm completely wrong here, but have you checked around that area for any rabbit holes? He could have gone in after the squirral and not been able to get out. I have had to pull harris hawks out of rabbit holes before... that might explain why the telemetry didn't get a signal ???

Good luck... hope he turns up soon, alive and well.

[PeelsBells]

No rabbits hole in sight were i lost the bird i only take him there to get fit. Just to fly him for a hour.
My hunting ground is 14 miles away.

[HawkMan]

All i can say m8 is get in touch with the rspca and any wild life sanctuaries round your end m8 ,even the police ,
Ive lost my red 3 times now m8 and got him back ,
just keep phoning about
He,ll soon turn up
Wish you all the luck
Jb

[HunterPaul]

sorry to hear about bthe loss, and the **** who turned up to have his loss sorted...aint it just the way...but please dont lose your good samaritan attitude because of one ******...I have never lost a bird but It comforts me to know there are ppl out there like yourself that will make the effort to find me should I ever be so unfortunate...if I was in his position you be sick of me thanking you.... he is a **** and **** comes around ...and by the same token chances are some decent person will hand your bird over to you...slightly over weight from the quail theyve been feeding it...

[HawkMan]

Last time i lost mine i went to a house to get me red out of the back garden ,and as i was coming out the local paper came up and took photo,s ,lol star for a day
Keep up the searching m8
JB

[Musket]

Hi Andy I hope you get your HH back I must say when my father and I meet you a wee while back you were a True Gentleman with a real passion for your birds and falconry as a whole, and if any one deserves to lose a bird it most certainly isnt you!
its that plonker with the gos, good luck with your search

[Falconry Equipment International]

Andy this is outrageous , Firstly very sorry to hear of your loss( presumably the reason why we have not spoken. as for the `Gos you did the right thing ....however I do feel you should name & shame. Have lots of friends around manchester what freq/channel was the harris lost on?
so sorry to hear about this
ATB
~J

[PeelsBells]

Thank you all for your support Jay the channel is 216.085
I feel i did the right think handing the bird back but it just makes your blood boil when some people are not bothered about the birds and only in the game to make money and others who enjoy falconry and the way of life.
Every time i ring the RSPCA i get cut off you wait for 5 minutes and then the phone dies. Im still phoning around i feel someone has got the bird and doen't want to give it back, hes a big male flying at 2lb by the end of the season, he starts of at 1lb 12oz although he knows the game.Styx has a miss shaped talon on his back toe due to being bitten by a rabbit in his first season.

[KestrelFan76]

sorry to hear of your loss i've lost my jack russell a few times but she has always turned up and shes pretty distinctive as she has a three inch scar on her shoulder when she had a bad encounter with some galvanised

[Barbary Boy]

thats marshalls for you!get luksander.

[Moritz]

name and shame! Next time in I am in manchester I am going to visit the bastared and show hm how to behave. Hope you get him back! I hope my marshall never fails me. Well I use marshall and lucksander in combination.

Good luck

Moritz