Loop Perch

[GameHawker]

Now Available Gamehawker Loop Perch Kits.

87542 87543

[Parabuteo.de]

Hi Carl,

Looks good!!!
How much do you ask for one?

May I order a ferret box and pay via Paypal?

All the Best,

Claas :)

[K.Massey]

Carl what does the Kit consist of? and also how much?

[GameHawker]

It will consist of the Perch and Loop and Ring. We will also be able to supply sheet material for the rear and side walls but at extra cost. Fixing the perch into place would be down to the individual but fixings are supplied. I will post photo's of the kit tomorrow Kev.


Regards Carl

[LeesHawks]

looks interesting carl but what is in the kit, are you coming to the meeting tomorow ? any chance you could bring one with you ?

lee

[Osiris]

Price?? :confused:

It will consist of the Perch and Loop and Ring. We will also be able to supply sheet material for the rear and side walls but at extra cost. Fixing the perch into place would be down to the individual but fixings are supplied. I will post photo's of the kit tomorrow Kev.


Regards Carl

[It's Alright Ma]

Looks great, could you give an idea of dimensions and also where the leash attaches. Also, have they been trialed with accipiters for any lenght of time?

Good to see someone producing a great perch for accipiters

All the best

Johny

[GameHawker]

Loop Perch kits will be on sale for £55.00 inc vat plus postage.

[GameHawker]

looks interesting carl but what is in the kit, are you coming to the meeting tomorow ? any chance you could bring one with you ?

lee


Yes I will be coming and yes I can Lee.

[LeesHawks]

Yes I will be coming and yes I can Lee.

thanks mate

lee

[GameHawker]

Looks great, could you give an idea of dimensions and also where the leash attaches. Also, have they been trialed with accipiters for any lenght of time?

Good to see someone producing a great perch for accipiters

All the best

Johny

I am no expert on Goshawks at all I am finding my way with a imprinted 3 season female Gos I have on loan until the end of the season. She has spent every night on this and part of the day when the weather has been bad with no problems. This is our concept of a tried a tested method that other falconers used for some time.

Regards Carl

[OutFlying]

I am no expert on Goshawks at all I am finding my way with a imprinted 3 season female Gos I have on loan until the end of the season. She has spent every night on this and part of the day when the weather has been bad with no problems. This is our concept of a tried a tested method that other falconers used for some time.

Regards Carl


Carl,
They work well, especially when placed on an elevated platform.

Atb,

Jim.

[TLDWB]

Good stuff Carl, think i will have one for my Christmas.:wink:

Tom

[Dorset Shortwing]

I knocked up my own and yes they are tried and tested and are probably the best way to keep Accipiters in good feather.
i could not have built mine for this small sum of £55,,,,,,,,,,,if i had not blagged the plastic sheet used for the shell so bargain i recon.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/vfrnut/DSC01115.jpg

[GameHawker]

Carl,
They work well, especially when placed on an elevated platform.

Atb,

Jim.

That's how I have set mine up Jim, its sat on top of the dog's night boxes.

[It's Alright Ma]

I am no expert on Goshawks at all I am finding my way with a imprinted 3 season female Gos I have on loan until the end of the season. She has spent every night on this and part of the day when the weather has been bad with no problems. This is our concept of a tried a tested method that other falconers used for some time.

Regards Carl

Thanks Carl, as I say, looks great.

Johny

[Dan Bray]

Whats the advantage of the loop compared to just using a fixed eylet to tether to,like on a falcons shelf perch.

[Dorset Shortwing]

Whats the advantage of the loop compared to just using a fixed eylet to tether to,like on a falcons shelf perch.

The Hawk can pass from one side of the perch to the other or when bating without any leash snag as it just passes over the loop back to the floor thus saving the tail from the leash passing through the tail and damaging it ,,,,,,also a Falcon has different needs to a Hawk and is less strung out like a Spar or Gos.

[Alf]

Karl nice looking perch although I am not to sure regarding the bend in the loop itself
The angle of the bend is more new shape bow like, meaning it’s too round!
The angle needs to be changed for the ring to pass up smoothly up and over. Alf.




Now Available Gamehawker Loop Perch Kits.

87542 87543

[GameHawker]

Thanks Alf, I am open to your comment and will look at this, but to be honest the bend on the loop seems to be work fine it slide's very easily over the loop.

Regards Carl

[GameHawker]

The Hawk can pass from one side of the perch to the other or when bating without any leash snag as it just passes over the loop back to the floor thus saving the tail from the leash passing through the tail and damaging it ,,,,,,also a Falcon has different needs to a Hawk and is less strung out like a Spar or Gos.


Could not have explained it better myself thanks.

Carl

[Dorset Shortwing]

Karl nice looking perch although I am not to sure regarding the bend in the loop itself
The angle of the bend is more new shape bow like, meaning it’s too round!
The angle needs to be changed for the ring to pass up smoothly up and over. Alf.

Yep i agree looking again,,, mine is more of an "A" shape just rounded off at the apex of the bend as to lend the ring to fall straight back to the floor with no chance of remaining at the top of the loop.

[Alf]

Ian not so much the ring will stay on top of the loop more it’s easier for the ring to travel up the loop if it’s shaped more like a pyramid than a balloon. Alf.



Yep i agree looking again,,, mine is more of an "A" shape just rounded off at the apex of the bend as to lend the ring to fall straight back to the floor with no chance of remaining at the top of the loop.

[Dorset Shortwing]

Ian not so much the ring will stay on top of the loop more it’s easier for the ring to travel up the loop if it’s shaped more like a pyramid than a balloon. Alf.

And back down again mate :yawinkle:.

[OutFlying]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/outflying/allsorts022Medium.jpg

[It's Alright Ma]

Karl nice looking perch although I am not to sure regarding the bend in the loop itself
The angle of the bend is more new shape bow like, meaning it’s too round!
The angle needs to be changed for the ring to pass up smoothly up and over. Alf.

I'd tend to agree Alf, but I've made two loop perches here, one with a loop like Carl's, one with a loop that's more acute - the main thing is tho', that the ring passes through, and lies on the floor, after the hawk bates. It does in the case of my birds, but I appreciate your concern. Very much depends on the hawk, I reckon ;), when it comes to bating, and the safety of perches.

Johny

[Dorset Shortwing]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/outflying/allsorts022Medium.jpg

Now thats the angle of dangle needed :yawinkle: i still think my Spar would wreck it's tail with the tether ring anything other than flat on the floor though mate :yawinkle:

[GameHawker]

Guy's you have had me thinking that the bend of the loop is wrong I have just taken a look at it and honestly it work fine the loop is not as steep as you are thinking. It must be the angle i have taken the photo with the camera.

The only fault I can pick up is the astro-turf is not wide enough but thats due in on Wednesday.

Regards

Carl

[Dorset Shortwing]

Right im off to have a fag and take a pic of my loop :rolleyes::rolleyes:,,b,i,a,mo

[Dorset Shortwing]

Guy's you have had me thinking that the bend of the loop is wrong I have just taken a look at it and honestly it work fine the loop is not as steep as you are thinking. It must be the angle i have taken the photo with the camera.

The only fault I can pick up is the astro-turf is not wide enough but thats due in on Wednesday.

Regards

Carl

No mate it needs to be steep like a triangle but with a curve at the apex not like a semi circle.

[GameHawker]

Hi Carl,

Looks good!!!
How much do you ask for one?

May I order a ferret box and pay via Paypal?

All the Best,

Claas :)

No problem email me your address so I can get a quotation for the delivery.

Carl

[It's Alright Ma]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/outflying/allsorts022Medium.jpg

If my wife see's this photo Jim, she'll think you stole my idea :lol: Thanks Jim, your early adoption of this perch and wider exposure of it has saved my goshawks tail - she is such a bater, god knows this is the only perch that works! And to Rob (goodfooter) too, for relentlessly explaining why and how it works.

All the best

Johny

[GameHawker]

No mate it needs to be steep like a triangle but with a curve at the apex not like a semi circle.

Ok! thats easily sort out, will post a few photo's tomorrow of the loop side on tomorrow.

[OutFlying]

No problem Jonny,
Glad it was of help.

Atb,

Jim.

[Alf]

Don’t know whose idea it was don’t know whose idea it was to stick it on a shelf :yawinkle::yawinkle:?
Great perch works perfectly that’s all that counts. :lol: Alf

[Dorset Shortwing]

Right 2 secs while i upload them.

[It's Alright Ma]

No problem Jonny,
Glad it was of help.

Atb,

Jim.

It's a great thing when advice works Jim, can make you feel stupid or make you feel sensible. Or can just make you learn, forget all the rest.

Thanks again,

Johny

[Dorset Shortwing]

Here you go ,note the steep angle,note also she has never, ever,ever broke any feathers while on it since put in as a brancher. Sorry about the mutes but she was scrubbed out this morning ,i dont use any substrate on the floor as to make cleaning easier ,,,,it's all plastic.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/vfrnut/DSC01721.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/vfrnut/DSC01720.jpg

[Dorset Shortwing]

Could not have explained it better myself thanks.

Carl

Thanks mate that means allot from someone with your experience :goodman:.

[Dorset Shortwing]

One more ,,,,she had a hot tail dip earlier hence the coverts looking a bit strange .
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/vfrnut/DSC01716.jpg

[Ned]

Don’t know whose idea it was don’t know whose idea it was to stick it on a shelf :yawinkle::yawinkle:?
Great perch works perfectly that’s all that counts. :lol: Alf

:yawinkle:

[Kizzy]

I have had this style of shelf for spars and gosses for a couple of seasons and they work well in reducing any feather damage, I also use(and you might think this sounds daft) a rubber ring instead of a metal one to attach the leash to, it is off a hoover VERY STRONG and totally safe never had one snap, rot or eaten. It gives a bit of flexability if the birds bates,they can be bought at the local market for pence, the code number is pp60,

[Kizzy]

Also forgot to mension my shelf is fixed at chest hieght off the deck, this helps when picking the bird up and if the weather gets colder, frost etc

[Ned]

I have had this style of shelf for spars and gosses for a couple of seasons and they work well in reducing any feather damage, I also use(and you might think this sounds daft) a rubber ring instead of a metal one to attach the leash to, it is off a hoover VERY STRONG and totally safe never had one snap, rot or eaten. It gives a bit of flexability if the birds bates,they can be bought at the local market for pence, the code number is pp60,

Know what your saying peter but how easy does that slide over the loop perch,atb Ned.

[Barnaby]

cool

[Alan G]

It will consist of the Perch and Loop and Ring. We will also be able to supply sheet material for the rear and side walls but at extra cost. Fixing the perch into place would be down to the individual but fixings are supplied. I will post photo's of the kit tomorrow Kev.


Regards Carl

Carl, what sort of costs are involved in the sheet material and are you selling it cut to individuals sizes or by the Sq meter/foot and leaving a tolarance to be trimmed by the user?

[GameHawker]

Carl, what sort of costs are involved in the sheet material and are you selling it cut to individuals sizes or by the Sq meter/foot and leaving a tolarance to be trimmed by the user?

Allan, I would have to price this individual to customer requirements.

The maxium width we would be 905mm wide (width of a roll of astro turf) x 1220mm in depth the height i have is 900mm high. I hope this helps.

Carl

[Dorset Shortwing]

I have had this style of shelf for spars and gosses for a couple of seasons and they work well in reducing any feather damage, I also use(and you might think this sounds daft) a rubber ring instead of a metal one to attach the leash to, it is off a hoover VERY STRONG and totally safe never had one snap, rot or eaten. It gives a bit of flexability if the birds bates,they can be bought at the local market for pence, the code number is pp60,

On mine i used a nylon sleeve over the loop and a polyprop plastic ring cut off a length of pipe :yawinkle: slides nice and easy.

[Alan G]

Allan, I would have to price this individual to customer requirements.

The maxium width we would be 905mm wide (width of a roll of astro turf) x 1220mm in depth the height i have is 900mm high. I hope this helps.

Carl

Thanks Carl and i'll get back to you once i get some measurments.

[GameHawker]

Thanks Carl and i'll get back to you once i get some measurments.

Ok Alan no problem.

Carl

[GameHawker]

87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.

[Alf]

Spot on! Alf.


87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.

[Dorset Shortwing]

:yawinkle: thats the kiddie :yawinkle:

[SmallPeregrine]

87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.
Looks a bit dangerous to me:(

[Alf]

Phil as long as the perch is bolted down and possibly it could be wider in length and I would prefer a ring instead of this tethering arrangement and I like a pole running the length so the hawk can wrap its feet around its natural position, apart from that it’s a good perch perfect for accipiter’s. Alf.


Looks a bit dangerous to me:(

[SmallPeregrine]

Phil as long as the perch is bolted down and possibly it could be wider in length and I would prefer a ring instead of this tethering arrangement and I like a pole running the length so the hawk can wrap its feet around its natural position, apart from that it’s a good perch perfect for accipiter’s. Alf.
Sorry Alf I thought it was a cadge for falcons and he was just using a Gos as a example cause he didnt have any falcons:idea:
Phil

[Alf]

:lol::yawinkle: Alf.


Sorry Alf I thought it was a cadge for falcons and he was just using a Gos as a example cause he didnt have any falcons:idea:
Phil

[GameHawker]

Phil as long as the perch is bolted down and possibly it could be wider in length and I would prefer a ring instead of this tethering arrangement and I like a pole running the length so the hawk can wrap its feet around its natural position, apart from that it’s a good perch perfect for accipiter’s. Alf.

The loop and rings will all be stainless steel. It is possible to make these any size you wish. This will be a our standard size.

Regards Carl

[GameHawker]

87575

[Kizzy]

Know what your saying peter but how easy does that slide over the loop perch,atb Ned.
Ned
I can only say that i have never had any problems,

[Kizzy]

On mine i used a nylon sleeve over the loop and a polyprop plastic ring cut off a length of pipe :yawinkle: slides nice and easy.
Ye Ian I like the idea off alterative products,the rubber and poly products just take the shock out of any bating
atb Peter

[Dan Bray]

With these loop perches would it be ok to put dried sand down instead of astro turf for ease of cleaning.

[Phil Noble]

With these loop perches would it be ok to put dried sand down instead of astro turf for ease of cleaning.

Would rather put plastic on there imo, sand and astroturf seem like a bit of hassle?
Phil

[Perebrine]

I have a similar system for my Merlins & it works brilliantly, mine doesn't look as professiona though.
One Idea that may be good, if there was a gap at the bottom, you could place some sheets of newspaper for ease of cleaning.
John B

[GoodFooter]

87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.

looks good....

[Natch]

87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.nice carpet mate lol,stick one in the post mate a ring u with card over weekend,natch

[GameHawker]

No Problem Gary

Regards Carl

[Wilfred]

I also like the idea of a loop perch a lot.
Would also however prefer a round ring, and also i myself do use some type of plastic/rubber ring instead of a metal one outside and currently this ring is used for more than 1,5 years already and still strong and as it was in beginning. I like this rubber ring instead of metal one also because of the reasons being mentioned and as long as the material is suitable it is great option.

[GameHawker]

We were waiting for stainless steel round rings to come in from our supplier. We now have them and all perches will be supplied with these perches.

Regards Carl

[GameHawker]

First 6 Gamehawker Loop Perches will be dispatch tomorrow.

Thanks for the orders.

Regards Carl

[LeesHawks]

karl

can you supply the sides and back and base at 900mm high and asto turf for the perch to sit inside and then be screwed down ?? if so how much ??

regards

lee

[GameHawker]

Best thing to do Lee is I'll give you a call.

Carl

[LeesHawks]

Best thing to do Lee is I'll give you a call.

Carl

ok mate
you have my number!

lee

[GameHawker]

Bump

[BlackSpar]

Gary (hawkman69) stopped at mine last night and he was telling me about this after looking in my mews, it looks great! i will get on the phone and get one ordered!

[LeesHawks]

just had the pleasure of visiting carl at his factory and was well impressed, even come away with a GAMEHAWKER MUG, top these are as well, i had bought some raptor posts and collected them and also wanted one of these new loop perches but with out the loop and a surrounding for it designed to my spec to fit in a area of my garage to use for what ever bird i am flying as it's night quarters, must say carl was very helpful and we came to a good design for what i wanted, if you want something pacific making then carl is your man, we even chucked a couple of other perch designs around and carl is gonna have a go at making some to see if they work well enough. you just carnt beat going to someone that will listen to what you want and do there best to accomodate your needs, top man, i have bruno sat on his one in the front garden and he has one in the back and garage so he seems happy as a pig in muck sat on these, tried a couple of bates and he is straight back up on it and so far that is it no more bating or even attempting to bate!

lee

[Simon C]

My loop perch was delivered the other day. Very speedy sevice Carl and top product

[GameHawker]

just had the pleasure of visiting carl at his factory and was well impressed, even come away with a GAMEHAWKER MUG, top these are as well, i had bought some raptor posts and collected them and also wanted one of these new loop perches but with out the loop and a surrounding for it designed to my spec to fit in a area of my garage to use for what ever bird i am flying as it's night quarters, must say carl was very helpful and we came to a good design for what i wanted, if you want something pacific making then carl is your man, we even chucked a couple of other perch designs around and carl is gonna have a go at making some to see if they work well enough. you just carnt beat going to someone that will listen to what you want and do there best to accomodate your needs, top man, i have bruno sat on his one in the front garden and he has one in the back and garage so he seems happy as a pig in muck sat on these, tried a couple of bates and he is straight back up on it and so far that is it no more bating or even attempting to bate!

lee

Lee, It was a pleasure buddy enjoy your mugs of tea. Just waiting on the material for you Loop Perch to come in.

Have a good weekend.

Carl

[mikeyv]

Now Available Gamehawker Loop Perch Kits.

87542 87543


hi can these be used for harris hawk?

[GameHawker]

hi can these be used for harris hawk?

I can't see why not.

Regards Carl

[Andy_G]

Mine must be stuck in the post lol

[Giant Panda]

87565 87566

Is that better for you.

This is the Basic Loop Perch for £55.00 inc Vat plus postage 905mm wide the width of a roll of Astro-Turf and 260mm high.

I like the overall design Carl,but would rather it was 4ft wide, (rather than the three).Only because my Gos likes to open her wings sometimes when stepping up.
Is that possible?(and how much?)

Jim

[GameHawker]

I like the overall design Carl,but would rather it was 4ft wide, (rather than the three).Only because my Gos likes to open her wings sometimes when stepping up.
Is that possible?(and how much?)

Jim

Jim, We can make these loop perches to your own specification the 3 ft wide one I am using has worked a treat for me. For a 4ft it would cost around £65.00 inc Vat.

Regards Carl

[LeesHawks]

Jim, We can make these loop perches to your own specification the 3 ft wide one I am using has worked a treat for me. For a 4ft it would cost around £65.00 inc Vat.

Regards Carl


have you done mine yet carl???


lee

[GameHawker]

Got it at work Lee completely forgot mate sorry. Give us a call I did take it to the BFC Midland meeting last month but there was only 2 other people there.

Carl

[LeesHawks]

Got it at work Lee completely forgot mate sorry. Give us a call I did take it to the BFC Midland meeting last month but there was only 2 other people there.

Carl

no rush mate bring it to the next meet if that is ok mate i will pick it up from you there if you like, will call you though

lee

[Giant Panda]

Jim, We can make these loop perches to your own specification the 3 ft wide one I am using has worked a treat for me. For a 4ft it would cost around £65.00 inc Vat.

Regards Carl

Ah that's the beauty of an imprint though,<g>.
I'll be in touch mate

Jim

[Rab Marshall]

Jim, We can make these loop perches to your own specification the 3 ft wide one I am using has worked a treat for me. For a 4ft it would cost around £65.00 inc Vat.

Regards Carl

4ft one please:DI'll give you a bell tomorrow Carl

ATB,Rab

[GameHawker]

4ft one please:DI'll give you a bell tomorrow Carl

ATB,Rab


Ok Rab talk tomorrow.

Carl

[Stephen]

Carl will you have four foot ones made up for the falconry fair

stephen

[GameHawker]

I will take a couple but would prefer to take orders for the 4ft ones.

Regards Carl

[Giant Panda]

Jim, We can make these loop perches to your own specification the 3 ft wide one I am using has worked a treat for me. For a 4ft it would cost around £65.00 inc Vat.

Regards Carl

Hi Carl, i've given it a bit of thought and you're right, a 3ft would probably be better than a 4ft, in that the hawk won't be tempted to bate along the perch.
Does anyone else intend to keep a PR Gos on one of these?
Personally i've used a screen perch for eons, but am open to any/all ideas, and this looks a good option,


Jim

[GameHawker]

Jim, Today we have dispatched today 4 x 46" Loop Perches and 2 x 48" Loop Perches. this size seems to be quite popular but personally I will be sticking to the 3ft loop perch myself.

Regards

Carl

[Widgit]

Hi I am just wondering if you are going to put these on your website?
Thanks

[GameHawker]

We are currently having a new website constructed dedicated to Falconry Equipment, Dog Transit Boxes, Draw systems and accessories. Catering for the needs and requirements of the sporting shooter or falconer all the equipment Sold or Produced by Gamehawker Ltd is made in the UK.

We will keep you updated on the progress of this site, we are hoping to be able to launch our new website at the Shooting Show on the 26th 17th February 2010.

Regards Carl

[GameHawker]

With a little over 2 weeks to the Falconry Fair on the 2nd & 3rd May, we are taking pre-order on Loop Perches to help save money on your postage cost's. Whilst helping us ensure we will be carrying plenty of the right stock to avoid any disappointment, Please contact us for any pre-orders or speical requirements on 01952 680433 or by email info@gamehawker.net

Kind Regards

Carl Cheshire
Gamehawker Ltd

[Andy_G]

These Do look Very nice:yawinkle: see you at the fair pal for that beer:goodman:

[Andy_G]

Got mine off Carl at the fair yet another top job pal :supz:

[Giant Panda]

Got mine off Carl at the fair yet another top job pal :supz:

Me too.Nice to meet you Carl,albeit briefly.You seemed to be the busiest stand at the fair,which was the poorest by far i've been to.

Jim

[GameHawker]

Me too.Nice to meet you Carl,albeit briefly.You seemed to be the busiest stand at the fair,which was the poorest by far i've been to.

Jim

Thanks Jim its was nice to meet you and thanks foe the trade on the book.

All the best

Carl