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HunterPaul
25-10-2005, 10:47 PM
i seem to spend a fortune on knives...no Im not a psycho!!!!! its just that I find it so difficult to find a sharpener that can give me the edge I require ...I hate sawing away at a rabbit trying to get it fully open.... Ive tried from the cheap opinal knives to the buck knives that come with a steel etc...and lots in between.....any suggestions.... got very frustrated by the diamond sharpener..and the kit cost a fortune....




PeelsBells
25-10-2005, 11:09 PM
Paul do what i do and use a good pair of scissors with a bone section. you can not bet it and its also safer on the fingers.
Kitchen devels £12.50 from any good retailer.

HunterPaul
25-10-2005, 11:12 PM
got some cracking scissors that IO keep in the car for gutting when I get back ...but like to have a knife when tramping the field... i wouldnt use anything but scissors for gutting they make it a breeze....

DeathFromAbove
25-10-2005, 11:20 PM
some good slaughtermans knifes are what you need buddy - my bro used to do alot of abbetoire work and i use his old set, fantastic.

FlameHairedFalconer
25-10-2005, 11:30 PM
Try

www.heinnie.com

I can recomment the Heckler and Koch, kershaw and puma knives. I was given a puma knife - stunning!!

FHF

Tim Laycock
26-10-2005, 12:25 AM
Sounds stupid but you can get stanley knives with longish blades now.
When they are blunt just replace the blades as they are cheap as chips

for a good knife that sharpens up well you have to go a long way to beat anything from Opinel

OutFlying
26-10-2005, 12:45 AM
i seem to spend a fortune on knives...no Im not a psycho!!!!! its just that I find it so difficult to find a sharpener that can give me the edge I require ...I hate sawing away at a rabbit trying to get it fully open.... Ive tried from the cheap opinal knives to the buck knives that come with a steel etc...and lots in between.....any suggestions.... got very frustrated by the diamond sharpener..and the kit cost a fortune....

HP,
Do a search on Lansky sharpening systems, easy to use and will bring an edge on any knife - too sharp sometimes.

Jim.

Talon
26-10-2005, 12:48 AM
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/sharpen/index.html

here you go .done the job for you.

Kanati
26-10-2005, 08:57 AM
dont get a new knife! learn how to sharpen one properly. learn how to get the angle you want - one thats sharp enough but durable - buy a selection of sharpening stones, and do it properly - get rid of the steal, they are not for sharpening, but to bring the edge back in line on and already sharp knife.

heres one of the many site you shuld look at

http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sstamp/knives/sharpen.html

have fun - you could sell some of your blades and buy that eagle you want :D

Barbary Boy
26-10-2005, 02:43 PM
changing the subject slightly, i bought a good quality butchers meat cleaver for under£20 it chops straight through an unskinned rabbit in one blow. no good for the field but quick for large scale feeding,

Mary Quite Contrary
26-10-2005, 03:11 PM
i seem to spend a fortune on knives...no Im not a psycho!!!!! its just that I find it so difficult to find a sharpener that can give me the edge I require ...I hate sawing away at a rabbit trying to get it fully open.... Ive tried from the cheap opinal knives to the buck knives that come with a steel etc...and lots in between.....any suggestions.... got very frustrated by the diamond sharpener..and the kit cost a fortune....

Buy a Ceramic sharpener.

They are the nuts

Coedhirion
26-10-2005, 10:05 PM
Opinel correctly sharpened guts real easy. I also carry secateurs for brambles. I also use these for chopping off the bunny feet and for disecting it in to 'bite' size pieces for the freezer. If they or the scisors wont go thro the larger bones, I have a pair of branch loppers which I also use for cutting up frozen meat. (branch loppers aren't taken hunting :roll: :lol: )

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 10:08 PM
Opinel correctly sharpened guts real easy. I also carry secateurs for brambles. I also use these for chopping off the bunny feet and for disecting it in to 'bite' size pieces for the freezer. If they or the scisors wont go thro the larger bones, I have a pair of branch loppers which I also use for cutting up frozen meat. (branch loppers aren't taken hunting :roll: :lol: )
like the idea of secateurs as i have had to cut the poor dogs ears out of bramble and many times the hawk has caught eithr side of unsnappable stuff...its amazing the kit you can add to a day out....the opinel Ive got comes with a steel...and it is the knife I always recomend to newbies....its not a roman sword that is the usual purchase of wanabees....the only down fall is the fact you need two hands to open it....but it is by far the easiest to get an edge on..and cheap as chips.

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 10:14 PM
a knife sharpened to 13 degrees should keep a good edge keep away from chinese steel, i use buck but as i have a tormek sharpening system i am lucky enough that i can put an edge on anything.

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 10:19 PM
tormek ....tell me more....the diamond thing i got at a fair had an angle thing ...too complicated to explain...I have a buck knife with the gut hook etc...fold away loveley knife ..anniversary pressie from the long lost wife...but cant get the edge I need...I use it for other stuff other than rabbits so need it nice and sharp....

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 10:27 PM
i use it for all my working tools. i sharpen the wifes global knifes on them, put it this way it cuts through paper like butter but it cost a wopping £ 200 but as i said i use it for work mainly. puts a cracking edge on the buck alpha

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Buy a Ceramic sharpener.

They are the nuts

Have to agree ther tho for a cheaper version an the right technique on the buck hold the top edge of the blade away from the stone the same thickness of the top edge ie 5mm it will give you the correct angle of 13 degrees

Coedhirion
26-10-2005, 10:32 PM
oooohhh!!! Posh :lol: I just use an Opinel some one gave me cos their dog chewed the handle so I put some car body filler on it :lol:
I sharpen it with a good old fashioned stone that has kinda worn rather thin in the middle from years of abuse :lol: :lol:

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 10:38 PM
£200 quid id have to do circumcision in my spare time to pay for itself ...and if you think im handeling any other dick than mine you can think again.... the ceramic sharpener sounds good ...I may have one...do they lose there effectiveness...as the thing I have is like two wheels made of stone type stuffand you draw the knife through it...this used to give my kitchen knives a razor edge but no longer gives me the edge that my anal personality can cope with...
if some one has a make and shop to buy it from tell me and im there...

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 10:51 PM
my ceramic stone is from the tool shop but, for sharpening the knife just like my chisels its in the technique and angle. with you devil sharpener the filings of the blade tend to clog the files but buck make one i dont know how good it is

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 10:57 PM
the tool shop??? is this a nation wide shop...dont do the chisels and stuff so...im knackered but would love to learn you may have to explain the angle thing in more detail....being priveliged I just buy new....only joking Im just not very good with manual stuff ..would love to be ...but ...oh HP your showing weakness...been o0n the red again...teach me please....

Coedhirion
26-10-2005, 11:02 PM
Just learn to use the back door step like we did in the good ole days. can't use it now cos its cheap nasty paving or wood edged steps out here, or just concrete an that dosnt work too well !!!

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:05 PM
thats why i bought the machine clamp it in the holder put water in container ( keeps the blade cool ) switch on machine run blade over revolving stone an see ya. The ceramic is collecting dust sorry.

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:17 PM
what machine pitbull ...is this the 200 quid thing.... and will it be worth me buying it considering the amount I spend on knives ...50 for the diamond sharpening kit..... 80 nfor buck knife ....opinel present....40 for big **** off bowie knife type thing for the burgulars.... lots of cheap little knives i keep in every coat say 30 quids worth.... medium cheap knives say another 30 then the variuos sharpeners Ive also bought...you see if Id been on here at the begining of my knife sharpening career id have bought a buck and on of your sharpeners and saved a fortune...where do I get one.....

Coedhirion
26-10-2005, 11:19 PM
if you got any of that lot spare hunterpaul send em to Wales :lol: :lol:

Blaze
26-10-2005, 11:21 PM
what machine pitbull ...is this the 200 quid thing.... and will it be worth me buying it considering the amount I spend on knives ...50 for the diamond sharpening kit..... 80 nfor buck knife ....opinel present....40 for big **** off bowie knife type thing for the burgulars.... lots of cheap little knives i keep in every coat say 30 quids worth.... medium cheap knives say another 30 then the variuos sharpeners Ive also bought...you see if Id been on here at the begining of my knife sharpening career id have bought a buck and on of your sharpeners and saved a fortune...where do I get one.....
Your scaring me now hp.............I can just picture you as this mentaly unstable nutter who has a fetish for knives...........Oh n likes to sarky.............Makes sense considering where you originate from b isle

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:24 PM
for tormek go to rutlands.co.uk then sharpening then tormek and the blue one would be ideal for you then they do various jigs for different tools ie axe long knife short knife etc etc but you know if you get one its so easy that you will want to find all your knifes to sharpen. comes with a video also

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:24 PM
Your scaring me now hp.............I can just picture you as this mentaly unstable nutter who has a fetish for knives...........Oh n likes to sarky.............Makes sense considering where you originate from b isle
lol...as I said I use the knives for other things...my little girl callls her future non existent boyfriends victims..... but thats enough aqbout my kid she is ten and I dont do kid jokes......
my only boundry

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:26 PM
if your really tight you could even re sharpen your stanley blades, im a scotsman so i do

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:29 PM
my mate phil the kill...had a knife type thing that had a swtchable stanley blade...but it looked like a lock knife...one handed opening...seems a good option...not that he needs it he guts em with their teeth....

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:31 PM
it will also do your scissors................

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:33 PM
im getting one... can you give web site or where I can buy one name of the machine ... any info greatly appreciated...

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:40 PM
I was on me way but doubled back ....why is it porn????

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:41 PM
try this one instead
http://www.axminster.co.uk

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:43 PM
what am i looking for...jeez I know how the newbies feel now..

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:45 PM
grinding and sharpening then tormek systems............. come on ..............who said you were brainy

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:46 PM
not the sharpest tool in the box

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:46 PM
im ****ed...I have to work for half an hour tomorrow on a macdonalds commrcial...neede something to ease me through...give me a break:wink:

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:49 PM
you said 200 quid ...nothing on here for less than 280 odd at that id have said three and gone into the knife sharpening biz..... why dont I just send all my knives to you and pay you a nominal fee ....

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:50 PM
have you got it yet i hope so cause i am **** at this computer lark, just send me your knives it will be quicker

Pitbull
26-10-2005, 11:52 PM
http://www.axminster.co.uk/category.asp?cat_id=208236

try this one

HunterPaul
26-10-2005, 11:55 PM
send your address ...Ill send my knives and scissors ... Im **** at this computer ***** too...

Barbary Boy
27-10-2005, 12:24 AM
send all knives to. Mr Sweeny Todd, barber, London.

HawkMan
27-10-2005, 05:45 AM
Hunter ive always got on fine with a chain saw i purchased from B&Q cuts meat and bone very easily ,you,ll need to buy some tough goggles and wire gloves and pants ,dont forget steel toe cappped boots,all the gear should come to about £500 .
Let me know how you get on !
All the best
JB

Achilles
27-10-2005, 06:43 PM
im ****ed...I have to work for half an hour tomorrow on a macdonalds commrcial...neede something to ease me through...give me a break:wink:
You're Ronald aren't you?

HunterPaul
27-10-2005, 06:54 PM
You're Ronald aren't you?
got the hair for it at the moment....chain saw sounds good....

Barbary Boy
28-10-2005, 06:25 PM
i think hunter paul is phil mitchell? administrator! could we have a poll on who hunter paul really is?

Harrisii
07-11-2005, 07:13 PM
i seem to spend a fortune on knives...no Im not a psycho!!!!! its just that I find it so difficult to find a sharpener that can give me the edge I require ...I hate sawing away at a rabbit trying to get it fully open.... Ive tried from the cheap opinal knives to the buck knives that come with a steel etc...and lots in between.....any suggestions.... got very frustrated by the diamond sharpener..and the kit cost a fortune....

THIS MAY SOUND DAFT HP, BUT I USE A PAIR OF SISSORS IN THE FIELD.
I DONT USE A KNIFE ANY MORE SINCE MY MALE HH GRABBED THE BLADE WHILST I WAS DIPATCHING A RABBIT AND SLICED THE BOTTOM OF HIS FOOT PUTTING HIM OUT OF ACTION FOR A GOOD FEW WEEKS AND COST A COUPLE OF QUID AT THE VETS ON ANTI-BIOTICS.
SISSORS WONT HARM YOUR BIRD AND THEY CUT A RABBIT LEG OFF EASY, AND OPEN A KILL FOR YOUR BIRD, EASY. AND THEY ARE SAFE.
I USE ROUND ENDED SISSORS TO AVOID INJURY TO ME AND BIRD.

I ONLY EVER USE SISSORS WHEN GUTTING A RABBIT TOO. SAFE AND QUICK I CAN PAUNCH A RABBIT IN SECONDS USING A PAIR OF SISSORS.

Harrisii
07-11-2005, 07:19 PM
Paul do what i do and use a good pair of scissors with a bone section. you can not bet it and its also safer on the fingers.
Kitchen devels £12.50 from any good retailer.

IKEA £2.50.
SOLID SS, CANNA WAK IT.

Pitbull
07-11-2005, 07:36 PM
THIS MAY SOUND DAFT HP, BUT I USE A PAIR OF SISSORS IN THE FIELD.
I DONT USE A KNIFE ANY MORE SINCE MY MALE HH GRABBED THE BLADE WHILST I WAS DIPATCHING A RABBIT AND SLICED THE BOTTOM OF HIS FOOT PUTTING HIM OUT OF ACTION FOR A GOOD FEW WEEKS AND COST A COUPLE OF QUID AT THE VETS ON ANTI-BIOTICS.
SISSORS WONT HARM YOUR BIRD AND THEY CUT A RABBIT LEG OFF EASY, AND OPEN A KILL FOR YOUR BIRD, EASY. AND THEY ARE SAFE.
I USE ROUND ENDED SISSORS TO AVOID INJURY TO ME AND BIRD.

I ONLY EVER USE SISSORS WHEN GUTTING A RABBIT TOO. SAFE AND QUICK I CAN PAUNCH A RABBIT IN SECONDS USING A PAIR OF SISSORS.

do you use the round nosed scissors for gutting also, just wondering as i thought that would have needed more force to puncture skin.

JFSeaman
07-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Didn't someone say a Stanley with replaceable blades. Stays sharp. Cuts. No problem.

I use a one handed knife and if I open it, when I get home it gets a going with the steel. Stays sharp.

Why is your euorpean bunny skin so effing tough?

Saker-Clive
07-11-2005, 09:02 PM
If you are going to use a Stanley; get the lino blades, they have the gut hook already. Use a few times take the blade out and turn it around............................

I personally use a Webley lock knife, with a serated lower half. Only paid £4.99 in a army surplus store in Dorchester; bought 2.

The New Kid
07-11-2005, 09:05 PM
hmm... i found a stanley knife blade OK to open up rabbits when i was at my brothers... cheap, and the blades are pretty cheap to replace...

Greg