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Lost my male harris this morning at waterfoot, glenarriff, antrim coast. tried everything but i just dont seem to be able to locate him. ive foned teh police,told shops, brought the lure about, whistled like a bloody refeeree. anything else anybody can sugest?
Moses
30-10-2005, 08:01 PM
sean my friend im so sorry to hear that mate, didnt u get a telemetry system
Saker-Clive
30-10-2005, 08:02 PM
If he's got telemetry on, now will be a good time to track him. He'll be roosting and easier to pin point. Good luck, he'll be back soon.
Shaun Byrne
30-10-2005, 08:05 PM
Sorry to hear that mate, get out first light and start looking. Without telemetry you are going to need a bit of luck.
What caused him to go awol?
Blaze
30-10-2005, 08:06 PM
Sorry about that mate...........What made him buggar off mate?........Was he over weight?.........Or did something startle him?.........Have you told ibr
Moses
30-10-2005, 08:09 PM
breaks my heart, sean just finished training it i think and this happens
i hope u find him soon mate, did u put bells on him
HawkNorth
30-10-2005, 08:14 PM
how did you lose him
Moses
30-10-2005, 08:18 PM
sean ding dong
dont get me wrong my friend , sean really gutted for u but the same time i couldnt stop laughing my arse aff
call me sad but here r a few pics for u mate to cheer up , cheery up sunshine
http://www.falconry-displays.co.uk/imgs/shop/telemetry_open.jpg
http://www.falconclubs.fsnet.co.uk/bells002S.jpeg
Moses
30-10-2005, 08:20 PM
i hope to God u find it sean but worst comes to worst mate i will chip in and buy u a new one :D merry xmas
Darren
30-10-2005, 08:55 PM
Sean get up there 1st light & get searching around where u lost him & listen out for Magpies, Crows who will be mobbing him & screaming at him.
Hope you get him back bud.
Daz
Stephen
30-10-2005, 09:06 PM
Hi sean dont lose hope m8 my female harris was miss placed for nearly 5 weeks and i got her back over the other side of the hill
just get out first light good luck
HarrisHawk.1.
30-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Lost my male harris this morning at waterfoot, glenarriff, antrim coast. tried everything but i just dont seem to be able to locate him. ive foned teh police,told shops, brought the lure about, whistled like a bloody refeeree. anything else anybody can sugest?
forget moses sad bas--- first light where you last seen him good look mate
Ive got bells on him yeah,
He was on the fist and a string gust of wind lifted him, he felt the wind a bated, the jesses sliped out :oops: and he went downwind out of sight. Ive foned the ibr too. the other thing to my advantage is, where i lost him is near a field i have flown him to the lure a few times. plan is to go back to where he sliped off and walk the way the wind was blowing, try this a few times, then go around every farm in a 5 mile radious, going to make some leaflets tonight
Falconry Equipment International
30-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Sorry guys, get up there well BEFORE 1st light, be as quiet/ careful as you can listen VV carefully for bells , you will be amazed I have got a Gos back from within 100 yds of where I lost her, a Pere back from within 1/23 mile keep a good heart & don't panic HTh SJH
HunterPaul
30-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Sorry guys, get up there well BEFORE 1st light, be as quiet/ careful as you can listen VV carefully for bells , you will be amazed I have got a Gos back from within 100 yds of where I lost her, a Pere back from within 1/23 mile keep a good heart & don't panic HTh SJH
again to reiterrate well before light..... look for mobbing crows in the vicinity... then get some telemetry when you get him back.... moses naff off weve all done it ...
Gary.B
30-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Good luck Sean, I was flying at a farm today and they were telling me how they caught a lost falcon by swinging a frozen rabbit around above they heads, the falcon took it and they managed to get it into a shed and return it to it's owner.(They were delighted with themselves). I'm sure you'll get him back soon.
Grovsey
30-10-2005, 10:22 PM
sean ding dong
dont get me wrong my friend , sean really gutted for u but the same time i couldnt stop laughing my arse aff
call me sad but here r a few pics for u mate to cheer up , cheery up sunshine
http://www.falconry-displays.co.uk/imgs/shop/telemetry_open.jpg
http://www.falconclubs.fsnet.co.uk/bells002S.jpeg
get a life m8 the lad has lost his bird
Moses
30-10-2005, 10:40 PM
get a life m8 the lad has lost his bird
sorry grovsey, seans a nice lad, just wanted to cheer him up thats all , ive seen the veterans really push beginners here to get telemetry systems and it was one of those things that made me laff , but loosing a bird wasnt funny but the other stuff in my mind was, i will tell u what made me laff when i read this i was picturing the whole scene
sean: my dear beloved birdie, i luv u so much, so pls dont leave me, im letting u go, my dear lad i trained u and manned u so dont leave me in the lurch and find me a bunny
hawk: aye right ya noob, soon as i fly away from ye i aint coming back and go and hunt a bunny yerself ye madman.
wee hee im free
thats what made me laff
sean keep the chin up my friend
again to reiterrate well before light..... look for mobbing crows in the vicinity... then get some telemetry when you get him back.... moses naff off weve all done it ...
good advice there but quote "moses naff off weve all done it" sorry but speak for yourself cos i aint done it, telemetry was the first thing i got (before i even got my harris) as it is one of the most important pieces of equipment for falconry (my opinion), i aint got much money but i saved untill i could afford, sorry but this is just my opinion and i feel this is a good lesson for others to learn from, a lot of people think that harris's don't need telemetry but like this has shown it only takes a gust of wind etc to make them bate , and sean really sorry to hear this bad news but just think of the joy when you get him back ;-) chin up m8
Moses
30-10-2005, 10:45 PM
good advice there but quote "moses naff off weve all done it" sorry but speak for yourself cos i aint done it, telemetry was the first thing i got (before i even got my harris) as it is one of the most important pieces of equipment for falconry (my opinion), i aint got much money but i saved untill i could afford, sorry but this is just my opinion and i feel this is a good lesson for others to learn from, a lot of people think that harris's don't need telemetry but like this has shown it only takes a gust of wind etc to make them bate , and sean really sorry to hear this bad news but just think of the joy when you get him back ;-) chin up m8
moet couldnt have said it better mate, well said
HunterPaul
30-10-2005, 10:56 PM
good advice there but quote "moses naff off weve all done it" sorry but speak for yourself cos i aint done it, telemetry was the first thing i got (before i even got my harris) as it is one of the most important pieces of equipment for falconry (my opinion), i aint got much money but i saved untill i could afford, sorry but this is just my opinion and i feel this is a good lesson for others to learn from, a lot of people think that harris's don't need telemetry but like this has shown it only takes a gust of wind etc to make them bate , and sean really sorry to hear this bad news but just think of the joy when you get him back ;-) chin up m8
I always use telemetry, as the various people that have been hunting with me from this site will testify...and find it false economy not to have it use it and make sure the batteries are fully charged and check its working order before the bird is even kitted up with it...I cannot expect every body to be as anal as me ...and people make mistakes ... not learning from those mistakes is unforgivable...making the mistake in the first place is...I just didnt think he needed me preaching about telemetry too much when he will be kicking himself to death about it untill he gets his hawk safley back on the fist.... granted not every body has made the mistake ...but there are a hell of lot of experienced falconers out there that have made the mistake.... and lived to tell the tale....this doesnt make it right....just real... hopefully the bird will have knocked a bit of weight off in the night and be looking for you in the morning as much as your looking for him... my fingers are crossed...
Shaun Byrne
31-10-2005, 07:19 AM
I must confess, I never used telemetry on HH until a couple of years ago even though I did own and use it with longwings. I've been lucky and never lost one for more than a few minutes.
Any news yet Sean?
DeathFromAbove
31-10-2005, 09:47 AM
sorry to hear about your loss buddy, chin up mate i'm sure as hunterpaul said his weight will be a bit sharper after a night or two out on his own and he'll be looking for you aswel. with regards to telemetry, yes it is important but i personally made sure i did a year without it to improve my field craft with finding a wandering bird, 's a risk but helps alot should telemetry fail sometime, have had a few occasions where my FHH had ******ed off on the chase and i had no clue where she'd gone, only to find her marking a hole where a wabbit had ran into, just looking out for the corvids helps alot as they're a tell tale sign of a hawks wanderings.
Best of Luck Mate! Keep us posted.
PeelsBells
31-10-2005, 03:40 PM
Sean hope you find the bird i lost mine with telemetry on just could not find a signal this was with a Marshall's.
I've got a Luksnader 10 channel for sale with 1 transmitter and new aerials which i will post latter on.
I still havent got my bird back its over 8 weeks.
Chin up and what will be will be.
All the best.
PeregrinesUK
31-10-2005, 07:06 PM
I really do hope you find your hawk sean it is a really shame BUT i hope everyone reading this reallises the need to use telemetry on your hawks yes you can still lose them and have failures BUT telemetry reduces the risks and gets birds back even if you only buy a transmitter and a mate have a reciever you can use a scanner to check for signal and away you go sorry to rant on but if only one person takes note itll be worth it buy you telemetry practice then buy the bird...... once again i really do hope you find him ive had bird out over night tracked down to trees and even then its hard.... all the best
MickeyDredd
31-10-2005, 07:20 PM
I really do hope you find your hawk sean it is a really shame BUT i hope everyone reading this reallises the need to use telemetry on your hawks...sorry to rant on but if only one person takes note itll be worth it
The folly of an inexperienced austringer flying a young hawk in windy conditions without telemetry was perfectly illustrated in CZ's Red Tail thread.
I'm sure precious few (probably none) newbies will have heeded the advice given then that you reiterate now.
Good luck Sean.
PeregrinesUK
31-10-2005, 08:39 PM
The folly of an inexperienced austringer flying a young hawk in windy conditions without telemetry was perfectly illustrated in CZ's Red Tail thread.
I'm sure precious few (probably none) newbies will have heeded the advice given then that you reiterate now.
Good luck Sean.
No doubt correct but worth a try!!
Liam Hay
31-10-2005, 08:59 PM
U learn the hard way Sean, now comes the test of field craft, just remember telemetry was not always around and find birds ppl did.
Liam
HawkNorth
31-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Sean you can try the local radio down town or rspb
ask the differant hawkers not in the club
likes of Colin Irwin, Glenarm,
John Carmichael
local news paper
some one may have taken him in as well
hi guys, just to let use kknow, i got him back, late afternoon. a young lad foned me and said he knew where it was. id put up my number in shops and chipes the night before you see. when i got there he was screaming and screaming (sort of a give away lol, altho he never screams in the field) there was abotu 20 kids standing on point making sure the knew where he goes lol, when i got there i swung the lure and he came(he mantled for the first time too?) then let the kids hold him for a wee bit and showed him flying(on the line, just incase lol) to the lure and things. he didnt mantle the second time on the lure. it really made my day and im sure it made the kids day. i gave teh fella who phoned me and the fella who found it originally a few quid also lol. all set for the field meet this weekend then! yeehaa
he was found at the green behind the town. everyone was getting ready for the halloween bomfire too lol
Moses
31-10-2005, 11:11 PM
lol so happy to hear it mate was just about to post about it when u pm;d me :D and here your quicker than me, well done :D
nice one mate good days r coming
HunterPaul
31-10-2005, 11:12 PM
well done on getting him back ...very pleased for you....dont hold your breathe for any field meet though...ring defra...also I hope your telemetry arrives before the next time you take him out if you havent already got some...again pleased for you ...but learn from it bud...HP
Blaze
31-10-2005, 11:22 PM
And they all lived happily ever after.........Aghhhhhhhhhhh..................Nice one mate!
paul defrea only covers england and wales anyway i think? and even so, it me be down at monaghan so its all different legislations. gonna get myself a 173 transmitter
HunterPaul
31-10-2005, 11:39 PM
sorry fella never even noticed your location....:rolleyes:
Darren
31-10-2005, 11:49 PM
pleased for Sean
Tim Laycock
31-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Glad you got him back.
Lesson learned no doubt.
Dont **** around without at least a transmitter!
Talon
01-11-2005, 12:10 AM
nice one sean .you got him back .bet you will have good nights sleep tonight
good luck with the rest of the season m8.
Barbary Boy
01-11-2005, 12:15 AM
your quite right blackbird every serious falconer should have a set but you would be gobsmacked by the number of h/hawks being flown around here and very few use telemetry,all i would say on the subject is telemetry is not magic it doesnt get your bird back it only helps you locate it, the number of people up here who have lost birds with it on and never seen them again is eqully gobsmacking.so to anyone new to telemetry i would advise practice practise and more practise coz its not magic and is far from perfect, dont underestimate good basic fieldcraft as well in recovering your bird,ive seen loads of people as soon as the bird is out of site ,telemetry out and off on a wild goose chase often if you keep your head and use some common sense itll not be that far away or even return looking for you,so anyone new to it, please experiment loads before actually using it as i think to many people think you stick it on the bird press a button when you need to and hey presto the bird reappears on your glove.
Talon
01-11-2005, 12:23 AM
we should do a poll to see how many ppl on her use telemtry and how many dont thats if the ones who dont admit to it.?
Barbary Boy
01-11-2005, 12:28 AM
the point i was trying to make is ,its not just a case of having it but having the expertice to use it effectivly. if you see what i mean.
Talon
01-11-2005, 12:35 AM
i know what you mean bb.
but just wandering how many actauly fly birds with out telem.
as most of the hh ppl i know dont bother .
its the same old story you hear .you dont need them with hh. so they think.
..and yes i do have telem.
Barbary Boy
01-11-2005, 12:45 AM
i just want beginers to realise its not perfect and takes a while to get used to it has its faults and doesnt allways work as well as some people think.i dont want to keep repeating myself but really guys PRACTICE loads with it 1st.
Kornie
01-11-2005, 03:10 AM
Well done for getting him back sean, lost our dog for 4 days, know the feeling.
HunterPaul
01-11-2005, 08:01 AM
i just want beginers to realise its not perfect and takes a while to get used to it has its faults and doesnt allways work as well as some people think.i dont want to keep repeating myself but really guys PRACTICE loads with it 1st.
a very good idea to practise...youd be surprised (or maybe not) how many hawks get lost wearing telemetry...and when asked what channel the tag is on or whatever they look at you dumb...some people just dont know how to use there particular system...get a mate to take the tag out one day, hide it and then simply go find it....if that seems too much bother ... bin the tag and the system cos it is useless to a lazy **** like that...
this is were i was flying him toohttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/sean_quinn/glenariff.jpghttp://ni_towns.tripod.com/waterfoot/wfoot_fr_hill.jpg
And these arent my pics, i nicked them from other sites lol. you can probually see the town, its at the sea shore there (called waterfoot lol). just lucky he didnt blow out over the hills
HunterPaul
01-11-2005, 08:31 AM
so when are you inviting us for a hol ..... it looks stunning mate
HunterPaul
01-11-2005, 08:33 AM
id want to be wearing telemetry if I went for a walk there...
Stephen
01-11-2005, 09:09 AM
glad to see you got him back m8
Graham Stuart
01-11-2005, 09:30 AM
nice one sean, glad all ended well
DeathFromAbove
01-11-2005, 09:59 AM
Nice one Sean.. glad to see all ended well, bet you're so relieved mate. all the best.
DeathFromAbove
01-11-2005, 10:01 AM
id want to be wearing telemetry if I went for a walk there...
wouldn't need telemetry to find you paul mate, all we'd have to do is find the nearest pub from where you set off and we'd find you halfway into a bottle of merlot hehe :lol: :partyman: :drinkers:
I know, the lands like watership down, theres so much rabbits, and some nice ground sets too :)
HawkNorth
02-11-2005, 06:03 PM
Happy for you Sean lose Rolf a bit nearer home next time
no rabbits near home lol, uncle has a house at glenarriff anyway :) brought my sleeping bag just incase i didnt find him
Kevin Massey
02-11-2005, 06:23 PM
have you ordered your telemetry yet?..... ask blackbird or pc hay...they may be able to point you in the direction of a new system at a very good price of a friend of theres..
glad you got him back !!! sorry i missed the thread
kev
ps moses you are a bundle of laughs........NOT !!
Moses
02-11-2005, 06:23 PM
no rabbits near home lol, uncle has a house at glenarriff anyway :) brought my sleeping bag just incase i didnt find him
mate dont u get mobiles in country antrim :D im sure u do haha , your uncle, should be traced easily give him a call
lol he lives in belfast but uses the house in the summer. and its hard to get a reception up there :( mate from the club came to help out and didnt see him till the end of the day lol.
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