Breeders ID Rings.

[Boxes]

Does a breeder have to register their breeders ID ring number to the IBR or DEFRA or any other organisation?
If not then what is the point of having a breeders ring if you can't track it from a lost bird if the buyer did not register it with the IBR?.

Recently i tracked down a HH. It had no IBR ring but it did have a purple ring with a number/code on it.
I then contacted the IBR and no HH had been reported lost in that area . So i was stumped for a owner.
Then i thought i would ask the IBR for any registered breeders in the area as it was a 1st year bird so it was worth a long shot!

Well after ringing two breeders i tried one more, and i or should i say he the owner got lucky. I was given a set of recent names....Anyway cutting a story short it got back to it's owner.

But my question is how can a breeder be registered with the IBR and yet does not by the looks of it have to give them their breeders ring number.

Can someone clarify what is supposed to be what is not and who or where........?????????????

What is the point of a breeder registering itself with the IBR and yet not giving their identity ring number?:confused:

[FalconGriff]

I don't register with the IBR and run my own free system which I think is better. My WHC ring is on one leg and is computer logged in to the new owner. On the other leg is a ring which says Phone and our phone number. On more than one occasion I have phoned an owner on his mobile and reunited him with his bird. If the bird is sold the new owner can either let us know to alter the contact address or cut it off and replace with a split ring with their own phone number on it. Rings can be obtained from A C Hughes (Google it) for very little money.
The reason for this was once I had a Saker go AWOL and yhe following day the IBR phoned me. Great except it cost 50 pound to the IBR to give me the address where the bird was and another 50 to the finder. Oh yes the bird was picked up while I was tracking it less than half a mile from the Centre!! The bird was still less than a mile from the Centre, the finder had removed the battery from the transmitter! Why I guess to stop me finding him till the money was paid. Was I bitter - yes I was!!

[Erik Belgium]

Does a breeder have to register their breeders ID ring number to the IBR or DEFRA or any other organisation?
If not then what is the point of having a breeders ring if you can't track it from a lost bird if the buyer did not register it with the IBR?.

Recently i tracked down a HH. It had no IBR ring but it did have a purple ring with a number/code on it.
I then contacted the IBR and no HH had been reported lost in that area . So i was stumped for a owner.
Then i thought i would ask the IBR for any registered breeders in the area as it was a 1st year bird so it was worth a long shot!

Well after ringing two breeders i tried one more, and i or should i say he the owner got lucky. I was given a set of recent names....Anyway cutting a story short it got back to it's owner.

But my question is how can a breeder be registered with the IBR and yet does not by the looks of it have to give them their breeders ring number.

Can someone clarify what is supposed to be what is not and who or where........?????????????

What is the point of a breeder registering itself with the IBR and yet not giving their identity ring number?:confused:
In Europe all European birds have to have breeders ID rings that's their passport where they come from and is mentiond on the cites papers!!To get these papers you even have to send in the papers off the parents(the first time,in the following times a copy is ok)!On these papers the adres of the breeder is told,a kestrel with a IBR ring for example is forbidden

[FalconGriff]

You are correct there is no system yet to register what is written on rings. What Animal health do is accept the first person to send them in that year and if someone else uses that ring they then have to have a micro chip!