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lewis
09-11-2005, 09:58 AM
Dear all

I am quite new to the forum and thought it would be a nice gesture to offer the telemetry systems at cost price shown below. It may also be nice to sell some on for early christmas presents........You know you want one !

We have 20 Wildlife tracking Systems (see posts below) that we will sell at cost price to us. They are by all accounts probably one of the best made. We certainly think so as we have had no problems with them whatsoever and we have used them for years.

Transmitters
For example Wt 603x 145 pounds
Wt 603s 110 pounds
Wt Merlin 120 pounds
Wt 603y 185 pounds

Receivers
For example 10 channell hand with telescopic aerial 580 pounds
3 channell hand with telescopic aerial 550 pounds
3 channell hand with solid aerial 475 pounds

Private Message for costs on the car and the 100 channell receivers.

Lifetime guarantee with the transmitters so long as you do not fiddle with them assault them with screwdrivers etc etc etc, and that they break due to a manufacturing problem.

There will be a postage charge but will be done at cost.

If anyone is interested then please feel free to send me a private message.

You will never get a better deal

First come first served

Best regards
Lewis




Falcons7
09-11-2005, 11:06 AM
Are they the same as what Brian Patterson sells?



Dear all

I am quite new to the forum and thought it would be a nice gesture to offer the telemetry systems at cost price shown below. It may also be nice to sell some on for early christmas presents........You know you want one !

We have 20 Wildlife tracking Systems (see posts below) that we will sell at cost price to us. They are by all accounts probably one of the best made. We certainly think so as we have had no problems with them whatsoever and we have used them for years.

Transmitters
For example Wt 603x 145 pounds
Wt 603s 110 pounds
Wt Merlin 120 pounds
Wt 603y 185 pounds

Receivers
For example 10 channell hand with telescopic aerial 580 pounds
3 channell hand with telescopic aerial 550 pounds
3 channell hand with solid aerial 475 pounds

Private Message for costs on the car and the 100 channell receivers.

Lifetime guarantee with the transmitters so long as you do not fiddle with them assault them with screwdrivers etc etc etc, and that they break due to a manufacturing problem.

There will be a postage charge but will be done at cost.

If anyone is interested then please feel free to send me a private message.

You will never get a better deal

First come first served

Best regards
Lewis

lewis
09-11-2005, 12:30 PM
Are they the same as what Brian Patterson sells?

Yes they are the same as Brian sells, and you can see the full spec details on the manufacturers website www.alpharf.co.uk

Best regards

Lewis

Falcons7
09-11-2005, 02:02 PM
ENOUGH SAID! Trannies are O.K though



Yes they are the same as Brian sells, and you can see the full spec details on the manufacturers website www.alpharf.co.uk

Best regards

Lewis

Moses
09-11-2005, 02:32 PM
ENOUGH SAID! Trannies are O.K though


mate u confused me does that mean their ***** or good


cheers i understand the tranny bit though :D

Addi
09-11-2005, 02:43 PM
ENOUGH SAID! Trannies are O.K though

out of order! .. the guy is just trying to offer people a good deal!

OutFlying
09-11-2005, 05:24 PM
Not a good deal if the receiver ain't any good - also they aren't cheap.

Hawkmaster
09-11-2005, 05:27 PM
Lewis you might want to get hold of Sparrow to become an Official Site Sponsor.

Falcons7
09-11-2005, 05:36 PM
Not disputing this BUT I have first hand knowledge of the Reciever have you.I replace my old HITRACK reciever with a ten channel number off Brian as the hitrack was **** on direction.
My falcon did a straight line down Whitby (refer to article in the BFC mag by GOERGE Thompson). Very quickly lost signal and after half a day looking ,then the best part of the next day we ended up hireing a plane to cover more ground.
After 1 1/2 hours or so I got the crapiest of signals of a range of only 1500FT I phoned the team on the ground to head the direct of the plain.Anyway got her back first thing the following morning only due to the fact that I used my old hitrack reciever otherwise I would still be looking.
Maybe they have inproved on it since as it was 2 years ago but the price I paid was not cheep and to add to this £300 for the plain more than a £150 quid easy for fuel in the cars to find a falcon at a range that any half decent reciever would have gotten a signal.
I might have had a duff system although the first test by Mr Patterson revealed it was fine to which I said ******** ,second time ,and there was weeks between them and lots of phone calls ,some slaver about bad conections with the yagi ,fins or what ever you call them.
After 600 and odd pound for the reciever and £450 + and 2 full days of stress of the highest order to pick her up I think I can say what the hell I like as long as its the truth. I would be willing to test another and then if need be eat my words but this WAS my experiance.
So what you you say if it was YOU



Nout of order! .. the guy is just trying to offer people a good deal!

BFC 007
09-11-2005, 05:41 PM
bloody good read that mate :wink: (article in the BFC)

GiantsEye
09-11-2005, 05:51 PM
sorry but wouldn't trust them:evil:

Heard alot of bad things about them.

lewis
09-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Mmmmmmm

Where do i start.....Do i berate or keep it mature for those that appreciate !!

Addi
Thanks for your support and as you have said i am only trying to give a good deal. I have been useing these systems for years and have never had any problems. Terry at Kentish Falconry has also stated he uses the system (see previous thread) and has had no problems with them.

We have sold a few and again we have not had any problems, although (to be fair to Falcons7 and i dont really want to as he has slagged of my gear...only joking !!!) i have used a hightrak system before and chucked it because the receiver was bad..

Giants eye
Perhaps giving some evidence as to why you wouldnt trust them as opposed to "hearing a lot of bad things about them" would i suggest be more helpful.


Falcons7
Well if that was your experience i cannot odds it.....It does all seem very stressful and costly. However you may have been wise to check the equipment prior to useing it on your falcon. Yes they are checked at the factory but things can go wrong during transport. If it was checked and i would assume all respected falconers would do this, then it could have been returned to the factory and been made good. I am not saying that is the case it just may be a possibility. It just seems foolish to put it on a falcon
without checking and then find out it does not work after the bird has bolted for whatever reason.......

If it was checked prior to being placed onto the falcon then the critcisms seem a tadge hard as that to me would show that it has been damaged in transit on the way to your flying ground. In which case it is wrong to point the blame at the system through accidental damage. There is still no excuse for looking after clients in the fashion that you explain ie phone calls...weeks between etc. That is totally unacceptable and it is one, which we here, do not subscribe to.

I have traipsed through this forum and cannot find Bryan anywhere...perhaps we will find out his side of things in due course.

There is as always two sides to a coin..................


Deals still stand i am utterly convinced this is a great system we have used it for years...

Hawkmaster thanks for your comments i will send sparrow an e-mail. I have not ploughed through all of this website as yet, when i do i will pm him.

Best regards

Lewis

Falcons7
09-11-2005, 08:25 PM
There is as always two sides to a coin..................



Top tip ,give him a call and tell him who told you .I wasn't having a go at you but the gear err...
Also tell Terry Burden who said this!

OutFlying
09-11-2005, 09:16 PM
WT Merlin - very poor design and performance. Used 2 and never again.

Addi
11-11-2005, 10:18 AM
Not disputing this BUT I have first hand knowledge of the Reciever have you.I replace my old HITRACK reciever with a ten channel number off Brian as the hitrack was **** on direction.
My falcon did a straight line down Whitby (refer to article in the BFC mag by GOERGE Thompson). Very quickly lost signal and after half a day looking ,then the best part of the next day we ended up hireing a plane to cover more ground.
After 1 1/2 hours or so I got the crapiest of signals of a range of only 1500FT I phoned the team on the ground to head the direct of the plain.Anyway got her back first thing the following morning only due to the fact that I used my old hitrack reciever otherwise I would still be looking.
Maybe they have inproved on it since as it was 2 years ago but the price I paid was not cheep and to add to this £300 for the plain more than a £150 quid easy for fuel in the cars to find a falcon at a range that any half decent reciever would have gotten a signal.
I might have had a duff system although the first test by Mr Patterson revealed it was fine to which I said ******** ,second time ,and there was weeks between them and lots of phone calls ,some slaver about bad conections with the yagi ,fins or what ever you call them.
After 600 and odd pound for the reciever and £450 + and 2 full days of stress of the highest order to pick her up I think I can say what the hell I like as long as its the truth. I would be willing to test another and then if need be eat my words but this WAS my experiance.
So what you you say if it was YOU



N

im not arguing the effectiveness of the equipment, i am saying that this was the guys first post and in his eyes he is offering us a bargin wether we think that or not. what sort of welcoming do we give to any possible new members when the first post they recieve back is a s h i t t y reply shooting them down in flames!

Falcons7
11-11-2005, 04:19 PM
Lewis knows there was no personal attack on him and the gear might have been improved in the last couple of years but I doubt it.
If ,when I bought mine it had cost £1 would it have been a bargin although I lost my falcon because of it. If you bought one and then lost your bird through it would I then be a **** if I never had shared my experiance with you.I can't win, the right thing that should have been done was when I finaly got my money back I should have recieved a reciever to re-test as if I had found that one to be ok then I would have said so and I wouldn't have cost my supplier a fortune in what would have been new orders because now I always point people in the direction of Marshall.



Lewisim not arguing the effectiveness of the equipment, i am saying that this was the guys first post and in his eyes he is offering us a bargin wether we think that or not. what sort of welcoming do we give to any possible new members when the first post they recieve back is a s h i t t y reply shooting them down in flames!