Bow or Block!

[Blaze]

Before i got my fhh i bought some second hand tackle out of the paper..........Also inc was a block perch.......The bloke told me that he used it for a female harris to tether her in the garden..........After speaking to another falconer he advised not to use it for a harris???.........So just wondered what your views are for the perches?.....Up to press i havnt used the block perch i use the bow!

[The New Kid]

In my experience, bows are more suited for Hawks as they are usually hunted from a treebranch or the likes, so it gives them that feeling... blocks are for birds that are happier sitting on flat surfaces, without gripping on to the bow... correct me if im wrong, im just a new kid! =op

Greg

[Falconry Equipment International]

I am only a beginner, so I have only 42 yrs experience, I am still leraaning & will probably never make a great falconer but IMHO please use rounded perches for HH's I hanve seen a HH with bumble foot ( even though the keeper was not aware as the high perch pointvin mews was a flat perch) HTH

[Blaze]

Well thats what i thought!............I just wanted to hear a second opinion........Cheers:lol:

[LeighJauncey]

I hanve seen a HH with bumble foot ( even though the keeper was not aware as the high perch pointvin mews was a flat perch) HTH

Not terribly clear SJ - does 'hanve' meanyou have or haven't? What about a Harris on a shelf perch - I've seen a few, they looked happy (well - as a Harris can look happy)

[Coedhirion]

Shelf perches and blocks are used for Harris, but some blocks do not have astro on the top so bumble foot is a very distinct posibility. Also the chance of tail damage. A bow perch is the more natural perching surface and the safest for use over long periods of time. People who use shelves, in my limited experience, tend to use them just at night with a heater under and well covered with astro. Often with a bungy to tie the leash to reduce the jar if the bird bates. Nesting etc. not counting in this as the bird is then loose. I use a block in my molt chamber but the bird is free to sit any where it wants.
The ring on a bow is loose and free to go over the top, that on a block just turns around the base.

[Falconry Equipment International]

Not terribly clear SJ - does 'hanve' meanyou have or haven't? What about a Harris on a shelf perch - I've seen a few, they looked happy (well - as a Harris can look happy)
Sorry Leigh, my dyslexia kicking in again! should have read have HTH

[Falconry Equipment International]

Hi CD , just because folk use a particular piece of equipment , does not mean to say that it is suitable or good for that particular bird's welfare, if this makes sense? personally i would never use a block /shelf perch for a high point in a mews/ aviary so that it was a prefered perching point. please note these are only my views. HTH

[OhMyGod]

If a HH is permenantly perched on a block will this not lead to the tendons stretching and give the bird trouble with gripping something small and increase the chance of being sticky on the glove.?

[MattSpar]

Large eagles are frequently kept on both blocks and bow perches. If we provided perches using the habits of wild birds as a guide, then kestrels should be kept on bow perches, being habitual tree sitters. Harris' hawks should have a perch finished off with cactus spines. Wild buzzards spend as much time sitting on flat topped telephone poles as on branches.
Some years ago, I experimented with different perches using birds from different generic groups. I concluded that the real reason we put longwings on blocks and shortwings on bows is that it's the "proper" thing to do. No more, no less. How many of us question the fact that a gos MUST go on a bow perch, a peregrine MUST be tied to a block? My own experiments showed that the birds themselves show no preference whatsoever when allowed to choose between the two types.
The fact is, a longwing on a bow, or a shortwing on a block just looks wrong. It's the result of long, ingrained tradition. It's interesting that all raptor types are happily tied by their owners to shelf perches, which have no long tradition to affect the way we think.

[Moses]

Large eagles are frequently kept on both blocks and bow perches. If we provided perches using the habits of wild birds as a guide, then kestrels should be kept on bow perches, being habitual tree sitters. Harris' hawks should have a perch finished off with cactus spines. Wild buzzards spend as much time sitting on flat topped telephone poles as on branches.
Some years ago, I experimented with different perches using birds from different generic groups. I concluded that the real reason we put longwings on blocks and shortwings on bows is that it's the "proper" thing to do. No more, no less. How many of us question the fact that a gos MUST go on a bow perch, a peregrine MUST be tied to a block? My own experiments showed that the birds themselves show no preference whatsoever when allowed to choose between the two types.
The fact is, a longwing on a bow, or a shortwing on a block just looks wrong. It's the result of long, ingrained tradition. It's interesting that all raptor types are happily tied by their owners to shelf perches, which have no long tradition to affect the way we think.


i always thought mate it was to do with their natural habitats

like eagles will use rocks or tree's and as we know buzzards r mostly on tree's etc

and as we know peregrines they even nest on rocks and cliffs in scotland , so a block makes sense

saker is funny though a longwing that sits on tree;s alot in pakistan and asia, their r hardly any rocks or cliffs where they r based just sandy and desert lands and fields with trees and nothing else

[Turumti]

Checkout www.offroadpakistan.com to get a better idea of what the terrain in Pakistan is like. Its not all desert, not at all.

[Moses]

Checkout www.offroadpakistan.com to get a better idea of what the terrain in Pakistan is like. Its not all desert, not at all.


lol i know bros where my grandparents come from r :D mainly in punjab its all fields, dessert and in the north west frontier and baluchistan is a different story all rocks and mountains

my lot come from pirmahal 2 hrs away from faisalabad, not a hill and mountain in sight as u know not even in faisalabad countryside


bros im going to pakistan inshallah on the 26th whereabouts r u in lahore, im gonna send a message to ali and see if i can meet up coz i wanted to know what kind of stuff he sells and see his falcons

u far from him, pls if u can, can u give me your details so i can come along and check out falconry methods and equipment

cheers