Harris Hawk Diet/ feediing hh on live mice

[World.Hunters]

hi i am a newbie to this great sport and have just baught all my equiment and built my avairy but can sum1 help me with a weekly diet for my bird when i get it and is it ok to feed them live mice

thx alot


http://www.freewebs.com/englandhuntingscene

E.H.S@hotmail.co.uk

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Why would you want to feed live mice?

Most people use a varied diet of day old chicks, mice, rats, rabbit and game birds. These are usually bought in frozen (and therefore dead already) from hawk food suppliers such as Honeybrook Farm.

Of course you could be a mouse breeder (!) and have a never ending supply of the little critters. In which case I would suggest you dispatch them first...the might be difficult to keep on the glove otherwise!! lol

FHF

[World.Hunters]

i was thinking of breeding mice and feeding them to the bird

how much does it cost weekly to feed a harris hawk??

[OutFlying]

Nothing if you manage to catch quarry with one.........

[World.Hunters]

what would u recomend for a weekly diet
i have seen alot of different diets with big feeds on 1 day and even some wiv 2-3 day big feeds which to me seems to much

thx in advance

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Again this is basic stuff. You will feed on a DAILY basis the amounts necessary to keep your hawk at the weight you want. This weight will vary with the weather/hunting etc

If I told you to feed your hawk 3 DOC per day you would end up with a dead hawk. Each hawk will need to be fed according to its individual requirements.

FHF

[Barbary Boy]

live mice can carry micemotoxocise very similar to myximatosis in rabbits,it is a killer and can be transmitted to people! this is a much greater threat to mankind than bird flu !so under no uncertain terms feed live mice m8.

[World.Hunters]

thx pal for the replies u guys are very helpfull at it is much apriecated
:supz:

[Talon]

live mice can carry micemotoxocise very similar to myximatosis in rabbits,it is a killer and can be transmitted to people! this is a much greater threat to mankind than bird flu !so under no uncertain terms feed live mice m8.

your on form tonight bb

[FlameHairedFalconer]

EHS - You've not been talking to a falconer called Katherine have you?

FHF

[Talon]

one of the maine symtoms is when you sneeze your foreskin flys back.lol

[Flying High]

First thing i would ask is where do you live because if you live in Britain please do not feed your bird live food. The reason for this is it is against the law and is would be classed as a baggie. At the end of the day falconry in this country has enough Di~K head and bad press that we could do without something else in the press. So anything you feed your bird please make sure it is dead first.

[World.Hunters]

EHS - You've not been talking to a falconer called Katherine have you?

FHF


i havent spoke to this person who is it

[Kanati]

hi i am a newbie to this great sport and have just baught all my equiment and built my avairy but can sum1 help me with a weekly diet for my bird when i get it and is it ok to feed them live mice

thx alot


http://www.freewebs.com/englandhuntingscene

E.H.S@hotmail.co.uk

weekly diet is easy...

monday:

weigh the bird and give it the right amount of food to change its weight by the desired amount...making sure htat it does not go too low.

Do this for the rest of time untill you die or bird dies for what ever reason

there are not rules...its not like a pet dog...fill bowl each day..keep water topped up. ITs completely ramdom. each food item has different values and makeing a weekly planner possabley COULD but definately SHOULD NOT be done

not having a go at you...just feeling a little sarcastic...i apologise for this ;-)

[World.Hunters]

thx kantai

[Addi]

im sorry to be blunt but go and find yourself a falconer that is willing to teach you hands on. DO NOT go and get your self a bird! ... it will be the biggest mistake of your life, you will throw the £300 down the pan when you wake up to find the bird dead in your lovely new mews .. you are asking questions you should know instant answers to months before you even consider getting a bird. As kanati says it is not like a pet dog or cat, a birds diet and weight needs constant checking and adjustment of food intake to lift or lower its weight.

I hope your next post is one asking for a local falconer to take you out and show you the ropes hands on, then when that falconer thinks you are ready im sure you will be helped to find the correct bird for you and ur circumstances and you and the bird will follow a successfull path

if you are any where near north yorks then i will be more than happy to take you out on a days hunting. If not post your area and im sure someone on here will do the same.



craig.

[HunterPaul]

im sorry to be blunt but go and find yourself a falconer that is willing to teach you hands on. DO NOT go and get your self a bird! ... it will be the biggest mistake of your life, you will throw the £300 down the pan when you wake up to find the bird dead in your lovely new mews .. you are asking questions you should know instant answers to months before you even consider getting a bird. As kanati says it is not like a pet dog or cat, a birds diet and weight needs constant checking and adjustment of food intake to lift or lower its weight.

I hope your next post is one asking for a local falconer to take you out and show you the ropes hands on, then when that falconer thinks you are ready im sure you will be helped to find the correct bird for you and ur circumstances and you and the bird will follow a successfull path

if you are any where near north yorks then i will be more than happy to take you out on a days hunting. If not post your area and im sure someone on here will do the same.



craig.
craig mate thats not blunt...this is blunt...are you a complete idiot....feed it live mice....hunt ridiculous sized quarry...how much food do i give it ....you have to have a license to watch telly ....what is the world coming to....do not under any circumstances get a bird ...ever...look out of your window...see those brown things in the air tweeting ...they are birds...leave em alone.... go buy a tarrantula... preferably really poisonous...i dont mean to be awful but the fact your even considering buying a bird at this time of year when you obviously know nothing about falconry...qualifies you not to have one...craig is very gallant in offering to teach you...but i know craig and with the silly questions youre asking on here you are likely to end up in some shallow grave on his land being badger fodder....if you take this ...and repost...please help id like to get into falconry...i have everything i need but a bird and experience ..i dont want to even think of a bird before next year ..then i will apologise and gaurantee that the majority of people on here will do everything they can to help...and i also guarantee that in two seasons time...you will be a happier person for it....

[GM090158]

im sorry to be blunt but go and find yourself a falconer that is willing to teach you hands on. DO NOT go and get your self a bird! ... it will be the biggest mistake of your life, you will throw the £300 down the pan when you wake up to find the bird dead in your lovely new mews .. you are asking questions you should know instant answers to months before you even consider getting a bird. As kanati says it is not like a pet dog or cat, a birds diet and weight needs constant checking and adjustment of food intake to lift or lower its weight.

I hope your next post is one asking for a local falconer to take you out and show you the ropes hands on, then when that falconer thinks you are ready im sure you will be helped to find the correct bird for you and ur circumstances and you and the bird will follow a successfull path

if you are any where near north yorks then i will be more than happy to take you out on a days hunting. If not post your area and im sure someone on here will do the same.



craig.


Well said Addi, I would be happy to do the same regarding a days hunting in the Northants area.

GM

[Osiris]

E.H.S - where are you from m8 :confused:

Update your profile so people can see where you are from, would help a great deal :D

Jamie

[HunterPaul]

E.H.S - where are you from m8 :confused:

Update your profile so people can see where you are from, would help a great deal :D

Jamie
hes from Ork

[Kanati]

Well said Addi, I would be happy to do the same regarding a days hunting in the Northants area.

GM
I would take him out too if hes in west wales... I would just be glad of the company :(

[Osiris]

hes from Ork

Where the hells that :roll: :confused:

[HunterPaul]

I would take him out too if hes in west wales... I would just be glad of the company :(
i darent post that cos with my luck hell live in the next chuffing street....

[HunterPaul]

Where the hells that :roll: :confused:
pmsl...osiris im on my back man....where ****ing mork comes from...outa space.... mork from ork...lol

[ChakChek]

even though this guy is a complete berk....it makes an intresting read

[Osiris]

You do crack me up sometimes HP!!

Just tried to do a route planner on AA - doesnt even know where Ork is!!:roll: Oh well...

Am i missing something here .... you taking the mick about Ork HP??!!:twisted:

[HunterPaul]

You do crack me up sometimes HP!!

Just tried to do a route planner on AA - doesnt even know where Ork is!!:roll: Oh well...

Am i missing something here .... you taking the mick about Ork HP??!!:twisted:
aww man i have just collapsed MATE...I HAVE TEARS ROLLING DOWN MY FACE....

[Graham Stuart]

that was sooooooooo funny, mate mork calling ork mork calling ork:lol:

[Osiris]

PMSL :gib:

Me thinks you taking the mick now :twisted:

I only asked where he was from :axe: :cry:

hehe

[Pitbull]

ive just been reading this thread and had to got to the toilet before i pmsl and grab a tissue for the tears in my eyes

[HunterPaul]

PMSL :gib:

Me thinks you taking the mick now :twisted:

I only asked where he was from :axe: :cry:

hehe
osiris you are killing me here mate....i am in a ****ing heap on the floor....the tv series mork from ork, about an alien played by robin williams ...who comes to earth and knows nothing....he was from a place in space called Ork...but man you have left me a cripple...that is the best scream ive had in years.....

[ChakChek]

i think the only bird this fella should get is one of those ******* annoying ones you can get from the rspb...like an osprey that makes a sounds like a pig getting mashed in the ass

[HunterPaul]

i have a stuffed gos in my living room ...and i wouldnt let him look after that for the day..... i know im an out spoken git...but these are living creatures...

[Osiris]

Now now ChackCheck, please be sival. He's a newby whos asking for info :D

Best advice to give him, would be to get a local falconer whos willing to learn him the ropes, get him to read up on a lot of useful books and to ask questions like he is... but reasonable posts :D

I get it now HP!!! This show must have been years and years ago. I am only 18 m8!!! :D

You got me good!! Cant help myself now i'm PMSL!!! :D

Lol!

Jamie

[ChakChek]

Now now ChackCheck, please be sival. He's a newby whos asking for info :D

its all good and fair asking for advice but im a newbie aswel and hwen people come on here all guns blazing and knowing basically nothing, it kinda gives newbies a bad rep....if you get what i mean.

[Osiris]

its all good and fair asking for advice but im a newbie aswel and hwen people come on here all guns blazing and knowing basically nothing, it kinda gives newbies a bad rep....if you get what i mean.

:supz: yer i know what you mean m8. u know what i mean tho :D

all is good :D yawn....

I've laughed so much this morning i am ready for bed again!! :weedman:

[ChakChek]

haha

its a pretty good read isnt it

[HunterPaul]

untill we can speak hawk like babs can...we are all newbies...osiris mate youve made my day, DFS or whatever your handle is read the stuff on here carefully and take heed....me im off out wi mi eagle to kill sumfink and if your at work ill be thinking of yall love HP...

[ChakChek]

untill we can speak hawk like babs can...we are all newbies...osiris mate youve made my day, DFS or whatever your handle is read the stuff on here carefully and take heed....me im off out wi mi eagle to kill sumfink and if your at work ill be thinking of yall love HP...

its alright for some!!

im at bloody college!! got 2 hours of archaeology lecture to come at the end of the day:cry:

[Blaze]

untill we can speak hawk like babs can...we are all newbies...osiris mate youve made my day, DFS or whatever your handle is read the stuff on here carefully and take heed....me im off out wi mi eagle to kill sumfink and if your at work ill be thinking of yall love HP...
Ha Ha!...........Me too Happy Hunting :D

[World.Hunters]

thx for the replies good and bad i know there basic but i am just asking what i am unsure about as i have been told alot of different things

i need to ask a fu*king question to get an answer

thax to the people that have helped me so far but i just want to be 110% sure about what im doing b4 i get the bird and that can not be a bad thing surley

[Addi]

its the fact that you stated you are ready for a bird and have posted asking for a bird that takes f and f, questions are not a bad thing unless you are asking basic questions while saying u about to get a bird!

[HunterPaul]

i like the way you have a stock answer to all the threads you posted...glad i didnt take too much time giving it any thought...not much thought was needed for such ridiculous questions....but again well done for the stock reply....

[HarrisHawk.1.]

Why would you want to feed live mice?

Most people use a varied diet of day old chicks, mice, rats, rabbit and game birds. These are usually bought in frozen (and therefore dead already) from hawk food suppliers such as Honeybrook Farm.

Of course you could be a mouse breeder (!) and have a never ending supply of the little critters. In which case I would suggest you dispatch them first...the might be difficult to keep on the glove otherwise!! lol

FHF

Graham butworth in oldham he does dayold chicks..

[Maxwell]

thx for the replies good and bad i know there basic but i am just asking what i am unsure about as i have been told alot of different things

i need to ask a fu*king question to get an answer

thax to the people that have helped me so far but i just want to be 110% sure about what im doing b4 i get the bird and that can not be a bad thing surley

No need to swear D.S.S...
You can understand people getting a little upset - when you've read one book - built yourself a cage and you are talking about getting a bird - then asking what to feed it and will a MHH take a hare. Etc etc These birds take a lot of time, dedication and you have to have enough respect for the birds to find out as much as you possibly can. You have been advised - nicely and maybe not so nicely - to learn more before you dive in - but you seem to keep repeating the same old (very basic) questions. Listen to what people (with a lot of experience) are telling you. Read more and get some experience - otherwise you may start off with a great bird and either spoil it or worse kill it.
If you don't have time to find out more then look in Petsmart - they have lots of nice birds there.

[Graham Stuart]

i think the point people are getting at is if you need to ask such basic questions then you are not ready for a bird, :wink:

[NewBird]

Hey guys, go easy ... if you ask about the poisonous nature of vines (not an obvious beginners question).. you get no response at all!
New Bird

[PlumbRite]

I`ve not been talking to a falconer called Katherine either-could you introduce me?

Plumb

[Peregrine960]

i think the point people are getting at is if you need to ask such basic questions then you are not ready for a bird, :wink:

Nuff said

[Hells99]

i think the point people are getting at is if you need to ask such basic questions then you are not ready for a bird, :wink:
Kindly and gently put, Barney.

Helen

[StormRider]

Haway peeps, give this lad a chance. the majority of birds I get in from rescue are form knackers who get a bird without any knowledge, facility what so ever. I have recently rescued a number of harris's from a lass who had them all in a converted outhouse toilet. 3feet wide and 6 feet deep.
Tleast this lad isn trying to get some info. I know when I was preparing for my first bird I took a while geeting in all the bits and bobs required. I also took ages building my aviary. I still didnt get a bird for another 12 months afterwards. This just sounds like good common sense to me.
Saying that EHS the best advice has already been given to you. You MUST come out of that shy and retiring shell of yours and go seek a local falconer who can show you the correct way in addittion to coming on here. Dont give up on the questions though.
STU

[Bish]

wouldnt recomend live mice mate, my fhh has taken feather and fur but her favourite quarry is wood mice that she catches by the dozen, good laugh but cant seem to break the habbit now she has a taste for them!! lol

[Hells99]

There's a HH at the foundation who's become fixated on catching mice as well!

[ScotsFalconer]

can i give a bit of practical advice to EHS- DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EVEN CONSIDE GETTING ANY TYPE OF BIRD OF PREY IF YOU CANNOT EVEN WORK OUT WHAT IS A GOOD VARIED DIET-U R NOT EXPERIENCED ENOUGHT TO OWN ANY BIRD OF PREY. read up on the subject loads, balance it out, can u afford it, do u have enough time, where will u get u equipment and food from. as has been said it is illegal to feed live animals to the birds unless caught by the bird its self. Go on a few decent courses or learn from an experienced falconer.

[ChakChek]

can i give a bit of practical advice to EHS- DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EVEN CONSIDE GETTING ANY TYPE OF BIRD OF PREY IF YOU CANNOT EVEN WORK OUT WHAT IS A GOOD VARIED DIET-U R NOT EXPERIENCED ENOUGHT TO OWN ANY BIRD OF PREY. read up on the subject loads, balance it out, can u afford it, do u have enough time, where will u get u equipment and food from. as has been said it is illegal to feed live animals to the birds unless caught by the bird its self. Go on a few decent courses or learn from an experienced falconer.

to late bud

[FlameHairedFalconer]

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9314

[ScotsFalconer]

dont tell me he has already bought a bird!!!!

[FlameHairedFalconer]

See the thread I have posted above. But you might want to have a few drinks first.

FHF

[ChakChek]

im afraid so, but as to the result and state of the bird i have no idea so i cant really say to much.

but as FHF said, get some brew down ya before you read :wink:

[ScotsFalconer]

JK sn sckdjv cHBSCJKBHSBCK SJBFED Vjb vk disk!!!!!!!!!!! I really hate these type of people. what the hell. dropping the weight so much and bvfdjbv ijbjksabdkjfv jfd. someone kick the **** out of that guy. or at least show him wat to do. the bloody thing is probally being fed on live mice and bacon. oh my god!!!!!

[ChakChek]

JK sn sckdjv cHBSCJKBHSBCK SJBFED Vjb vk disk!!!!!!!!!!! I really hate these type of people. what the hell. dropping the weight so much and bvfdjbv ijbjksabdkjfv jfd. someone kick the **** out of that guy. or at least show him wat to do. the bloody thing is probally being fed on live mice and bacon. oh my god!!!!!

hahaha bacon.

i think there is someone on the forum who is or at least has taken him out and given him all the right advice. Problem is though it comes across like he is disregarding alot of the adive.

he did post some pics of his bird and avery, and at the moment at least, all looks gravey.

He may get lucky and keep it alive, we shall see

[ScotsFalconer]

where r these pics i want to see em

[Wightwings]

or foxes:roll: :roll:

[StormRider]

I recognise this guy now. It seems he has got the bird. I would assume and hope that he already started off his feeding regime the right way and is only asking this question on live mice out of curiosity. It might just be my thick head here, but where did it mention he was feeding bacon? I dont even get bacon that often for brekfast never mind a bird? lol
STU

[ScotsFalconer]

it was a joke mate, lol

[Wightwings]

careful not allowed here anymore..jokes that is:roll: .next your be getting abusive pms about them........

[ScotsFalconer]

lol. not bothered. lol

[Maxwell]

It has all gone very quiet - after so many posts.

E.H.S. - if you're out there - how are you and your FHH going on?

Hope you are both ok!