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World.Hunters
16-11-2005, 10:51 PM
hi i am a newbie to this great sport and have just baught all my equiment and built my avairy but can sum1 help me this may sound daft but wat do i use for an area which the bird sleeps ect ect

thx alot


http://www.freewebs.com/englandhuntingscene

E.H.S@hotmail.co.uk




Moses
16-11-2005, 10:53 PM
hi i am a newbie to this great sport and have just baught all my equiment and built my avairy but can sum1 help me this may sound daft but wat do i use for an area which the bird sleeps ect ect

thx alot


http://www.freewebs.com/englandhuntingscene

E.H.S@hotmail.co.uk

mate they sleep on perches u can tether them on a bow perch or if its trained and as long as its safe enuff to let them loose u get some perches made across from one side of the mews to the other and u can cover it with astroturf, they dont sleep on beds like us :D

Moses
16-11-2005, 10:55 PM
here is a link, check out all the mews of other members


http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=96

World.Hunters
16-11-2005, 11:10 PM
thax alot pal that is what i fort but i herd people on about a seperate area for warmth ect wiv all types of things in there live conifers ect ???????????????

thx alot tho pal

OutFlying
16-11-2005, 11:16 PM
I may appear rude but please go and do your basic research into the subject of keeping hawks - your level of questions (to say your ready) is way too low for someone ready for a hawk.

Read a book, then ask questions raise from reading it.

FlameHairedFalconer
16-11-2005, 11:17 PM
Perhaps you are referring to heating in a mews? Harris hawks can suffer from frost bite and wing tip odema in very cold weather if they are tethered close to the ground. However if they are in an aviary with perches high up they should not suffer from these problems.

World.Hunters
16-11-2005, 11:20 PM
sorry for the simple questions but i have read about these but would like second and third apinions

OutFlying
16-11-2005, 11:23 PM
In which book did it refer to "nest materials" for a hawks sleeping quarters or feeding live mice - I feel you haven't read a quality book on the subject.

World.Hunters
16-11-2005, 11:41 PM
i never sed that these books refered to these subjects i was just wondering as i have heard about such things in the past and it is best to know as much as possible b4 getting my bird

Kanati
17-11-2005, 12:06 AM
have you been on a course...? if not WHEN are you going on one? Do you have someone close who can help you with our first bird?

youcome across like you need to get help and or lessons

World.Hunters
17-11-2005, 12:08 AM
i am just asking a few question that i need second apinions on i know a few people who may help
how much are lessons and are they very useful

Pogue Mahone
17-11-2005, 12:15 AM
fill ya aivary with budgies and save a hawk:supz:

HunterPaul
17-11-2005, 11:07 AM
im going to top myself and nobody better try to stop me.....

Addi
17-11-2005, 11:23 AM
with regards to sleeping areas i like to offer my harris hawks a double devan and a single in the corner of the aviary, they seem to prefer a bob the builder quilt cover but im sure a barbie one will do if its a female ur getting. make sure it is a good tog rating in the winter, needs to keep them warm! then replace for a thin sheet during the summer. A night light is also a good thing to add, just make sure the bird can reach the switch so it dsnt have to get out of bed to turn the lights off.

If you are keeping a breeding pair make sure you have both a single AND a double, that way if they have an argumentthe male can go sleep in the single bed.

craig

HunterPaul
17-11-2005, 11:24 AM
with regards to sleeping areas i like to offer my harris hawks a double devan and a single in the corner of the aviary, they seem to prefer a bob the builder quilt cover but im sure a barbie one will do if its a female ur getting. make sure it is a good tog rating in the winter, needs to keep them warm! then replace for a thin sheet during the summer. A night light is also a good thing to add, just make sure the bird can reach the switch so it dsnt have to get out of bed to turn the lights off.

If you are keeping a breeding pair make sure you have both a single AND a double, that way if they have an argumentthe male can go sleep in the single bed.

craig
you are a nutter mate...pmsl

ChakChek
17-11-2005, 11:25 AM
with regards to sleeping areas i like to offer my harris hawks a double devan and a single in the corner of the aviary, they seem to prefer a bob the builder quilt cover but im sure a barbie one will do if its a female ur getting. make sure it is a good tog rating in the winter, needs to keep them warm! then replace for a thin sheet during the summer. A night light is also a good thing to add, just make sure the bird can reach the switch so it dsnt have to get out of bed to turn the lights off.

If you are keeping a breeding pair make sure you have both a single AND a double, that way if they have an argumentthe male can go sleep in the single bed.

craig

you forgot to mention the beside cabinet for keeping their glasses and mugs of hot chocolate

also, maybe his and hers pillow cases

DeathFromAbove
17-11-2005, 11:25 AM
ROFL :lol: ....you beat me to it mate hehehehe classic

Blaze
17-11-2005, 11:26 AM
My mates father owns a bed factory..........Im sure i can sort you a bed out at a discounted price!

Talon
17-11-2005, 11:40 AM
i know its makes ppl mad when that here a newbie .
asking such basice questions. and in the same breath say ive got all my falconry equipment.and will be getting a bird soon.
its easy too take the ****.out of them (me included )
but we should be giving them the advice they need.
as there going to get the bird any way.and only the
bird will suffer.so please newbies read a couple of books atleast and get your
selfs on a reputable course.and if possible get out with a falconer and learn as much as you can.
then when you ask questions.you will under stand what is being said to you.
i suppose coming on this forum is a nother step in the right direction.
to learn but you need to at least have a basice understanding.
of falconry.

DeathFromAbove
17-11-2005, 11:49 AM
:supz: All New And Improved :supz:

Will keep you hawk in the lap of luxury...just add bowl of live mice and a bottle of dom on standby.... :lol:

Addi
17-11-2005, 11:55 AM
pmsl .. there are tears!

Blaze
17-11-2005, 11:56 AM
She looks very happy!...........

DeathFromAbove
17-11-2005, 11:58 AM
oh yeah... their the biz....... cudles her lil teddy in there of an evening... a fantastic buy.....

Addi
17-11-2005, 12:36 PM
She looks very happy!...........

looks like she needs copeing! lol .. dfa u need to work on ur cutting out skills lol

DeathFromAbove
17-11-2005, 12:52 PM
hehehe aye, missing the bottom mandible there lol - was sorta cut out and made up in a hurry, too eager to post it prob hehehe

Hells99
17-11-2005, 12:54 PM
Poor guy's just had double colouring in - too much to expect much from the cutting out lesson!:lol:

Sean
17-11-2005, 01:09 PM
if he doesnt ask he wont know! thats what this forum is for

World.Hunters
17-11-2005, 05:21 PM
thx for the replies good and bad i know there basic but i am just asking what i am unsure about as i have been told alot of different things

i need to ask a fu*king question to get an answer

thax to the people that have helped me so far but i just want to be 110% sure about what im doing b4 i get the bird and that can not be a bad thing surley

FlameHairedFalconer
17-11-2005, 09:19 PM
I hate to point out the obvious EHS - but this it is a public forum and therefore you are likely to get considerably more 'different opinions'. I suggest you either find a mentor and use his/her methods until you have enough experience to understand the choices on offer.

FHF

The Egyptian
17-11-2005, 09:28 PM
In which book did it refer to "nest materials" for a hawks sleeping quarters or feeding live mice - I feel you haven't read a quality book on the subject.

Jim give him a break your like the forum Rottweiler'help the lad out' was you born with a hawk on yer wrist Jim

FLY THEM HARD DONT TREAT THEM HARD JIMBO!!!!

YOU PUT ME OFF THIS FORUM MATE'DONT PUT THREAD'S NO MORE IL'E WAIT TILL IV'E BEEN AT IT FOR TEN YEAR'S AND THEN THER WILL BE F... ALL 2 POST ABOUT ;)

OutFlying
17-11-2005, 09:40 PM
Help the lad out - gladly. Spoon feed newbies who can't be arsed to do the basics - NOT A CHANCE.

If a few replies are not to your liking but factual correct are enough to put you off the sport - Then your not keen enough and then my posts have served their purpose in putting off someone not suitable for falconry.


You yourself are a prime example of someone who wasn't ready, but got the hawk anyway. First get the basics right. then go out with someone with a hawk, get some NEARBY land, learn some fieldcraft - THEN GET A HAWK. Don't take shortcuts, it will end in tears.

I take a great deal of pride in the sport of falconry and realise the hard work and effort it takes to do it correctly, it then ****es me off when someone can't be bothered other than typing a few questions who then thinks he's ready.
Yours Jim.

ChakChek
17-11-2005, 09:42 PM
I take a great deal of pride in the sport of falconry and realise the hard work and effort it takes to do it correctly, it then ****es me off when someone can't be bothered other than typing a few questions who then thinks he's ready.
Yours Jim.

here here

The Egyptian
17-11-2005, 09:43 PM
I had 2 post a thread on this subject as I feel the way you have taken the **** is out of order' beleave me Im'e up for a joke at the beat of times but atleast if you have a joke finish it with some decent advice for the lad reley are you all Falconry expert's is this a sport just for the quik learner's if so maybe they should put that in some of the basic book's for all us beginers.

Since OUT FLYING chewed me up and spat me out iv'e chose not 2 bother with thread's but I read them every day and I had 2 put my point across so no offence.

I would like 2 thank HP and JUZZER who straight away helped me out and saved me and my bird alot of trouble with there advice and guidence so thank's alot 2 you both.

THE EGYPTION ( JUNIOR MEMBER 2 THE SPORT )

The Egyptian
17-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Help the lad out - gladly. Spoon feed newbies who can't be arsed to do the basics - NOT A CHANCE.

If a few replies are not to your liking but factual correct are enough to put you off the sport - Then your not keen enough and then my posts have served their purpose in putting off someone not suitable for falconry.


You yourself are a prime example of someone who wasn't ready, but got the hawk anyway. First get the basics right. then go out with someone with a hawk, get some NEARBY land, learn some fieldcraft - THEN GET A HAWK. Don't take shortcuts, it will end in tears.

I take a great deal of pride in the sport of falconry and realise the hard work and effort it takes to do it correctly, it then ****es me off when someone can't be bothered other than typing a few questions who then thinks he's ready.
Yours Jim.

Jim been intouch with HP and Juzzer constantly guided me through it all so guess what your wrong Jim' take it on the chin it happens 2 us ALL so I suppose im'e a prime example of some 1 who dosnt want 2 waste time arguing with you so I decided 2 speak with Falconers who were willing 2 brush aside ther arrogance and help me out regardless if I rushed or not' it's the bird's wellfair after all but you dont seem arsed' maybe 1 day Il'e be able 2 FLY THEM HARD

OutFlying
17-11-2005, 09:52 PM
Which bit is taking the **** ?

I posted sound advice not an ego massage for yourself. You posted before your nearest hunting land is 50 + miles away, I stated it wasn't practical and that you weren't ready for a hawk - sorry I didn't post anything of use to yourself or maybe you couldn't intrepet or read between the lines of my posts.

If you don't like the replies, don't read them - its simple.

Jim.

OutFlying
17-11-2005, 09:56 PM
Jim been intouch with HP and Juzzer constantly guided me through it all so guess what your wrong Jim' take it on the chin it happens 2 us ALL so I suppose im'e a prime example of some 1 who dosnt want 2 waste time arguing with you so I decided 2 speak with Falconers who were willing 2 brush aside ther arrogance and help me out regardless if I rushed or not' it's the bird's wellfair after all but you dont seem arsed' maybe 1 day Il'e be able 2 FLY THEM HARD

How do you know I haven't help newbies out in the sport ? answer you don't. I'm willing to help anyone out WHO IS WILLING TO LEARN but they must make the effort too, I've helped plenty. Just because someone has already bought a hawk before they are ready ain't my problem its yours, the welfare of your harris has got nothing to do with me its your responsibilty and if you weren't ready then its your own fault.

Mick
17-11-2005, 10:48 PM
at the end of the day the lad is asking questions before he gets his hawk what would ya rather he did get the hawk first then ask questions later ?
ok there simple questions but if he wants to make sure he doing things right whats wrong with that ?

Barbary Boy
17-11-2005, 10:52 PM
at the end of the day the lad is asking questions before he gets his hawk what would ya rather he did get the hawk first then ask questions later ?
ok there simple questions but if he wants to make sure he doing things right whats wrong with that ?
here here!

Blaze
17-11-2005, 10:56 PM
bb.......Your a star:supz:

Talon
17-11-2005, 11:27 PM
after all the **** taking.
the lad had the descency to remain polite and thank ppl who did help him.
for there advice.instead of telling us all to f**k off.

World.Hunters
18-11-2005, 01:47 PM
thx talon
and i respect and thax all ov the advice givin

Moses
18-11-2005, 01:49 PM
with regards to sleeping areas i like to offer my harris hawks a double devan and a single in the corner of the aviary, they seem to prefer a bob the builder quilt cover but im sure a barbie one will do if its a female ur getting. make sure it is a good tog rating in the winter, needs to keep them warm! then replace for a thin sheet during the summer. A night light is also a good thing to add, just make sure the bird can reach the switch so it dsnt have to get out of bed to turn the lights off.

If you are keeping a breeding pair make sure you have both a single AND a double, that way if they have an argumentthe male can go sleep in the single bed.

craig


****in brilliant :D i dont know how i missed this post, very funny

Moses
18-11-2005, 01:50 PM
i know its makes ppl mad when that here a newbie .
asking such basice questions. and in the same breath say ive got all my falconry equipment.and will be getting a bird soon.
its easy too take the ****.out of them (me included )
but we should be giving them the advice they need.
as there going to get the bird any way.and only the
bird will suffer.so please newbies read a couple of books atleast and get your
selfs on a reputable course.and if possible get out with a falconer and learn as much as you can.
then when you ask questions.you will under stand what is being said to you.
i suppose coming on this forum is a nother step in the right direction.
to learn but you need to at least have a basice understanding.
of falconry.


well said bros

Moses
18-11-2005, 01:53 PM
at the end of the day the lad is asking questions before he gets his hawk what would ya rather he did get the hawk first then ask questions later ?
ok there simple questions but if he wants to make sure he doing things right whats wrong with that ?


nice one mick

nice one talon


ehs keep the chin up bud , God willing u will become an awesome falconer one day and u know what its all about and take the jokes with a pinch of salt my friend

peace

World.Hunters
19-11-2005, 12:11 AM
thx alot moses :supz:

Horus
19-11-2005, 09:16 AM
Hi EHS Like you I am a newbie a complete beginner. I would love to have my own bird but I am nowhere near ready in experience to get one. Please listen to the sensible advice being offered and get some experience before you buy a bird. There is so much to falconry and the care of bop. Don't take any notice of the slanging just hold in there. I am sure someone will come to your aid. They really are quite a nice bunch on here really. I have already had a lot of help and I have only been on the forum since October.

Good Luck!!:) :)

Moses
19-11-2005, 12:41 PM
thx alot moses :supz:

your welcome buddy u have a blessed weekend