Time of year to buy?

[Murph]

I am thinking of buying my first harris in jan! but ive been told to wait! can i have ideas for the best time to buy?? Im still learing so may be alot later that jan!! i will be buying a manned and entered and will work backwards from there learing from the Lancashire Club! Sorry cant rember there name and this month joing CA. Well opinions please. I am getting some great help from Han who is a member here and she is trying to put me in tocuh with harris owners. Shes great and taught me alot already anyway!!! BEST TIME TO BUY???

[Barbary Boy]

best time to buy m8? when ive got some to sell! easy.

[Blaze]

What time of the year will your Barn Owls be ready bb.........Im very interested in buying one off Your barneys?...pm me with details.......Ta!

[Murph]

LOL !! Cheers so it doesnt matter about time of year ?

[Barbary Boy]

you still not tucked up yet blaze, you know santas watching?

[Blaze]

Im fighting it......Im scared of the dark.........Will santa be bringing me my barney!!!...eh will he..will he...:razz:

[Ellis]

if you check thread i posted i asked a simular ? murph, but never realy got a proper reply :rolleyes:

[Blaze]

End of summer.....You will be able to once its manned n trained get it on some easy young rabbs.....If you get it in jan by the time your ready to enter the bird the rabbits will be the good fighters that are left and they wont be as plentifull as at the begining of the season!....Just my opinion

[Jarreth]

It doesn't really matter. I know you have said you are buying a already trained bird, so I won't go into that, it's your decision. However if someone was buying a young male, it is better to buy it in Spring because they are being entered when the young rabbits are around which is helpful, because a male Harris isn't that big, and if he doesn't get hold of an adult rabbit properly, which can happen very easily when it is the bird's first time, he can get a real kicking and then be put them off trying to catch them at all.

I would never advocate anyone who doesn't have experience having a bird in their possession, unless they have a falconer close by to help them and advise them.

This site is NOT the place to learn falconry. And that is not because the falconers on this site aren't experienced and good at what they do, of course they are. An experienced falconer will understand what I mean, so if you don't please find yourself an experienced falconer you can visit regularly BEFORE you get any bird.

[Jarreth]

Hi Blaze
When are rabbits born around your way? Or how long is it from flying free to entering for you?

[Blaze]

July time there are plenty of young rabbs about are they not?.....Febuary march time the rabs that are left the ones that have survived through the winter...Fit healthy rabbs!

[Jarreth]

Well thats sort of what I thought mate. Around here we do a good line in the Easter Bunny which is usually March-ish. I think I got confused when to said buy a bird late summer which to me means August. Which would of meant entering the bird on young rabbits a month earlier in July, sorry about that, I misunderstood your reference to months thats all.

[Barbary Boy]

i think the best time to buy a bird is about late july coz i go on my hols after that and the money comes in handy like?

[Blaze]

I thought the Arabs sorted that out?.....You greedy bleeder:yawinkle:

[Jarreth]

Well that's absolutely fair enough, cause he didn't ask from what perspective, which time was the best to buy, and that is very a valid reason!! lol lol.

[MickeyDredd]

I am thinking of buying my first harris in jan! but ive been told to wait! can i have ideas for the best time to buy?? Im still learing so may be alot later that jan!! i will be buying a manned and entered and will work backwards from there learing from the Lancashire Club!

If you buy a hawk in January you will be putting it up for the moult a couple of months later so I would advise against this, a very short introduction to the sport for you.

It sounds as though 2007 would be about the right time for you to buy your first hawk as, manned and entered or not, they still require a high level of knowledge and commitment. Why not learn from the Club and others before you get a hawk, this is surely the most sensible way.

Not sure what you mean by working backwards but hopefully the hawk will not do likewise!

[PeelsBells]

I am thinking of buying my first harris in jan! but ive been told to wait! can i have ideas for the best time to buy?? Im still learing so may be alot later that jan!! i will be buying a manned and entered and will work backwards from there learing from the Lancashire Club! Sorry cant rember there name and this month joing CA. Well opinions please. I am getting some great help from Han who is a member here and she is trying to put me in tocuh with harris owners. Shes great and taught me alot already anyway!!! BEST TIME TO BUY???


Murph why do you want to buy a bird which has been trained by someone else and is hunting.You are asking for trouble as people only get rid of birds in my opion what they feel are not adiquate for them so why should it be good enough for you.
Ok there are some cases were they are giving up falconry or their life style has changed.
But i have only been on this forum for 5 months and i have seen so many birds change hands, and there owner says they dont have time for the bird and home commitments have changed.
BULL **** !!!!!!!! one guy said he was getting rid of his male harris because of work and then 1 week later posts i am changing my avairy to suit my new falcon.
What a w**ker, just becauase the bird was screaming!
This is what you will put up with and you have all their mistakes remember buying and trainning a bird is one of the best times in falconry and the most exciting.
Dont lose the spirt of the sport and be led down the wrong path because you havnt got the knowledge spend time and learn then do it your self.
You will end up with a good bird and if you make mistakes live with them the good falconers do and they persiver.
Remember mistakes are not the birds fault but your own.
Trust me and you will have more feeling for the bird as you have trained it and its not just another bird.

P.S the best time to buy is when the bird is 20 weeks or over as there is less chance of screaming and then put in your own avairy for a couple of weeks to let the bird get used to its surroundings.
Also if you pick the bird up late summer the quarry is young to so more chance of catching as they are inexperienced to.

[Darren]

I am thinking of buying my first harris in jan! but ive been told to wait! can i have ideas for the best time to buy?? Im still learing so may be alot later that jan!! i will be buying a manned and entered and will work backwards from there learing from the Lancashire Club! Sorry cant rember there name and this month joing CA. Well opinions please. I am getting some great help from Han who is a member here and she is trying to put me in tocuh with harris owners. Shes great and taught me alot already anyway!!! BEST TIME TO BUY???

Alright Lad.
So your going to buy a manned bird, male or female....at what age will he be & would he had been entered?. Most people buy young bird around sept/oct to mann themselfs.
If you get the bird in Jan it will be going down for the moult around march/april...or are you going to fly it through the summer(moult).
You need to make sure this bird has no bad habbits.....get out with a few other falconers & you can always get 1 later on in the year

Daz

[HunterPaul]

you say you want to learn about falconry....no you dont mate ...you just want to fly a bird by what i can tell....if you want to learn anything it should be fir5st and foremost how to care for a bird of prey...followed by getting it out hunting....you will learn nothing much from somebody elses cast off...he will tell you its flyinf hunting weight etc....what have you learned...he will tell you what maintains its weight and what he uses to bribe it back to the fist if it wont come out of a tree...he will sell all the equipment to you ... what will you learn ...diddly squat except how to waklk around a field with a harris on your fist... if you really want to learn do all this with a falconer who already has a bird then next year get a first year bird....it will be mental when you first see it ...it will fall spastic like from your glove...you will sit it back repeat repeat....you will spend hours in the garden with a cut in half rat trying to make it feed ...this will go on for days....it will eat...you will gain rock hard erection....it will after time dtep on your glove....it will come a leash length...it will fly the garden....then you can really test your arse by letting it fly free... then the day it catches its very first rabbit ...your wife is gonna get the best shag ever.....this is learning about falconry....forget second hand ...and treat yourself to the best experience ever...training a brand new never been touched bird....

[Blaze]

you say you want to learn about falconry....no you dont mate ...you just want to fly a bird by what i can tell....if you want to learn anything it should be fir5st and foremost how to care for a bird of prey...followed by getting it out hunting....you will learn nothing much from somebody elses cast off...he will tell you its flyinf hunting weight etc....what have you learned...he will tell you what maintains its weight and what he uses to bribe it back to the fist if it wont come out of a tree...he will sell all the equipment to you ... what will you learn ...diddly squat except how to waklk around a field with a harris on your fist... if you really want to learn do all this with a falconer who already has a bird then next year get a first year bird....it will be mental when you first see it ...it will fall spastic like from your glove...you will sit it back repeat repeat....you will spend hours in the garden with a cut in half rat trying to make it feed ...this will go on for days....it will eat...you will gain rock hard erection....it will after time dtep on your glove....it will come a leash length...it will fly the garden....then you can really test your arse by letting it fly free... then the day it catches its very first rabbit ...your wife is gonna get the best shag ever.....this is learning about falconry....forget second hand ...and treat yourself to the best experience ever...training a brand new never been touched bird....
You must have just had a right good old ham shank when yours caught its first rab then hp!.......Or did you feel flush n go out n spend a bit of brass!

[Jarreth]

On the point of buying a new bird I agree with Peels Bells, but as he hadn't asked about that I didn't mention it.

I still think it's ok to buy a bird in January, anyone owning a centre or doing outside demonstrations will know that birds can still fly when they are moulting and if you keep their weight good and at a constant they will not have traces or fret marks or any weakness in their feathers.

[Mary Quite Contrary]

I am thinking of buying my first harris in jan! but ive been told to wait! can i have ideas for the best time to buy?? Im still learing so may be alot later that jan!! i will be buying a manned and entered and will work backwards from there learing from the Lancashire Club! Sorry cant rember there name and this month joing CA. Well opinions please. I am getting some great help from Han who is a member here and she is trying to put me in tocuh with harris owners. Shes great and taught me alot already anyway!!! BEST TIME TO BUY???



July/ august and no later