EEO on fox

[World.Hunters]

has any one take a fox yet wiv there owl or sceen one maybe u can post a few pics

are owls hard to get hunting on fur

thx guys and girls

[HunterPaul]

why ...i thought you were into learning about falconry.... why would you want to hunt foxes with an eeo... this is not a question under the circumstances that as a falconer I find my and my fellow falconers in, i would care to answer.... why do i get berated for not wanting to give oput my advice to people willy nilly...and subjects like this are openly posted with no come back whatsoever.....oooh i know lets all go help the fox boys and some weekend cash for christmas....

[Tr1gger]

I wouldnt recommed it either

[Finnish]

Tell me seriously why you would want a EEO to take a fox.:?: :?: :confused:

[World.Hunters]

i was just wondering about this as it is on the hawkworks web site it gives u a list of wat each bird can catch and it says EEO ect can catch foxes just wondering if its true

[Tr1gger]

In the wild yes they could if they wished however i havnt heard of any falconers that do this

[Saker-Clive]

My attitude is, no matter what bird you are going to fly, if you or your bird isn't going to eat its kill, don't kill it.:supz:

[ChakChek]

EEO + hunting x foxes = sore subjct

:wink:

[JFSeaman]

My attitude is, no matter what bird you are going to fly, if you or your bird isn't going to eat its kill, don't kill it.:supz:

It's hard to get any owl to hunt.

As for EEO againts fox, don't go there. :minigun:

[Andy_G]

mind u naming no names been told u can hunt rabbits with barn owls pmsl

[Maxwell]

has any one take a fox yet wiv there owl or sceen one maybe u can post a few pics

are owls hard to get hunting on fur

thx guys and girls

Am I the only one... but are these threads some kind of wind-up?

Appalled at the idea of this...

As the 'great man' once said... 'Lets all keep hunting the way it should be...'

I understand there's a previous thread on hunting foxes... with a Kestrel - bit easier than an EEO...

[Andy_G]

no thinks its some peopel think u can do things with cetain things and tell new and none knowledge people some bull *hit about stuff

[Albie]

Hi E.H.S.
First chance you get, I would try and get someone who owns one of these LARGE Owls to let you hold him or the much larger her on your fist.
No doubt the owl will be well manned and well behaved.
Now take time to study the feet and claws.
And say to yourself.... would I realy like to dispatch the quarry that these feet are holding... cause believe me he or she might just happen to get hold of your hand... but not to shake it if you see what I mean..
good luck,
Albie..

[Zam]

What is it with this EHS poster?:confused:

A while ago he was asking about getting eagles to fly with a pack of dogs/hounds. Now this.

This is a windup. Nobody is that dense,obvious,crass,transparent,etc,etc,etc,

Go away:evil:

[Out Hunting]

Alot of the fox hunts now are using BOP to fly at foxes, these are mainly an eagle of some descripton or another. I have been out of falconry for about 15 years now, however when i worked at a hawking centre i did know of someone who flew EEO to the lamp at foxes. his EEO was amazing to watch doing this however it only lasted around 3-4 seasons before been lunch!! in my view if you wish to hunt foxes start with something the size of a tawny eagle, personally i wouldnt even hunt that at foxes.
if you need to hunt big game why not hunt deer. we have six species (+hybrid) in the UK starting at the fox sized muntjac.

sorry for the short reply, my m8 is here out hunting....:D

[Jester]

this is a picture of him mantling on a rabbits head and im finding there is a knack of getting him off something as small as this which takes a while instead of making straight in you have to go fairly slowly and let him settle on it before you move close (which gives the fox plenty time to get a few bites in )
in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY (probably never) event he ever tagged anything other than a very young fox cub you would have to make in to despatch it and believe me he would probably attach himself to your face and you would likely get a few bites from the fox at the same time.

as much as i would love to say "yeh no worries he can easliy take fox" the truth is maybe a big fit wild female can but a captive bred imprinted EEO??? not a clever idea to try http://www.owlpages.info/gallery/albums/userpics/angry.JPG

[GiantsEye]

this is a picture of him mantling on a rabbits head and im finding there is a knack of getting him off something as small as this which takes a while instead of making straight in you have to go fairly slowly and let him settle on it before you move close (which gives the fox plenty time to get a few bites in )
in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY (probably never) event he ever tagged anything other than a very young fox cub you would have to make in to despatch it and believe me he would probably attach himself to your face and you would likely get a few bites from the fox at the same time.

as much as i would love to say "yeh no worries he can easliy take fox" the truth is maybe a big fit wild female can but a captive bred imprinted EEO??? not a clever idea to try http://www.owlpages.info/gallery/albums/userpics/angry.JPG


WELL SAID..............:supz:

[MattSpar]

I have hunted foxes quite a bit in the past, though not with any bird of prey, and have respect for their biting ability. I have had birds' flying careers ended by squirrel bites, let alone foxes. Is there anyone out there who regularly takes fully adult foxes with an owl? I doubt it.

[Blaze]

I have hunted foxes quite a bit in the past, though not with any bird of prey, and have respect for their biting ability. I have had birds' flying careers ended by squirrel bites, let alone foxes. Is there anyone out there who regularly takes fully adult foxes with an owl? I doubt it.
If yes.....Post on thread....MOST TOLD FALCONRY LIES!

[MattSpar]

If yes.....Post on thread....MOST TOLD FALCONRY LIES!

Ah yes, very good.

[Blaze]

What did you used to hunt foxes with mattspar?

[MattSpar]

Well, let me cast my mind back (a long way) to a not so mis-spent youth. Rifles, lurchers, terriers, spades, snares, big sticks and an assortment of characters ranging from the aristocratic to the neanderthal.

[Out Hunting]

the same as you, i reckon the best thing to fly and consistently kill foxes is a little chap called a .22/250 This is probably not too well known in the field of falconry, but it is a hybrid and there is little risk to the owner due to hefty vets bills. I suppose that the only problem with this little chap is that you will have to fly a new one at each fox as the damage that the fox will cause to this little chap is quite un-repareable, though so is the damage he will cause to the fox.

Hope this helps

[Saker-Clive]

the same as you, i reckon the best thing to fly and consistently kill foxes is a little chap called a .22/250 This is probably not too well known in the field of falconry, but it is a hybrid and there is little risk to the owner due to hefty vets bills. I suppose that the only problem with this little chap is that you will have to fly a new one at each fox as the damage that the fox will cause to this little chap is quite un-repareable, though so is the damage he will cause to the fox.

Hope this helps

:supz: :supz: , I personally prefer the .222 or .243 species myself. Always bind and never had any need to slip it a second time:wink: or the need to make in and help dispatch it. 8-)

[FlameHairedFalconer]

this is a picture of him mantling on a rabbits head and im finding there is a knack of getting him off something as small as this which takes a while instead of making straight in you have to go fairly slowly and let him settle on it before you move close (which gives the fox plenty time to get a few bites in )
in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY (probably never) event he ever tagged anything other than a very young fox cub you would have to make in to despatch it and believe me he would probably attach himself to your face and you would likely get a few bites from the fox at the same time.

as much as i would love to say "yeh no worries he can easliy take fox" the truth is maybe a big fit wild female can but a captive bred imprinted EEO??? not a clever idea to try http://www.owlpages.info/gallery/albums/userpics/angry.JPG

I cant be alone in thinking that Jester is saying "go on, make my day, punk!"

Excellent pic!

FHF

[Tr1gger]

I wouldnt call that mantling. Sitting on its arse mabey but i still love it when EEOs do that. Go on make his day

[MattSpar]

I cant be alone in thinking that Jester is saying "go on, make my day, punk!"

Excellent pic!

FHF

From my, admittedly, restricted experience with eagle owls (thank goodness), I'd venture a guess that there's very little going on in its head.

[FlameHairedFalconer]

well you know its not a void in there, the space is taken up with eyes!

Owls <shudder> empty just doesnt do their heads justice....

FHF

[Jester]

this is the go ahead make my day punk look


http://www.owlpages.info/gallery/albums/userpics/10074/angryfront.jpg

[Hells99]

LOL! Jester!

That is so sweet - I love em me! (look at me - I'm so scary :x

Helen

[Hells99]

Finger up bum!!!!!

God, what a question to ask a girl ! :oops:

[Jester]

yea but wouldnt you have the hump if somone was trying to stick there finger up your bum lol




he does look scarey al id think twice about taking his dinner of him



Andy............

yeh its not as simple as tossing a bit of chick just out of reach for him to go get but we are making progress so all i need to do now is get him chasing something other than the dummy bunny or rabbit carcass and see if its as easy taking him off something fresh and warm :roll:

[Hells99]

We have a EEO at the foundation which we have just got back after ten days of freedom, most likely she was catching rabbits and pheasant but when we got her back, she was 10 ounces overweight so she'd obviously fed herself well!

She was handed over to us because she'd been hunting since she was 2 but had often hit the quarry so hard, she'd damaged her legs and the owner lost interest in her.

She's now sulking in hers aviary until her weight's down a bit and we can start flying her again (probably on creance for a few days!).

Wonder what she was hunted to previously? There's a fair few muntjac round here so it wouldn't surprise me if she'd had a go at one of those.

[StormRider]

What sort of creance do you use with these birds - Ship yard Chains?
STU

[Hells99]

lol! Never seen them try an EEO on creance before but they flew the Bateleur and the Changeable on pretty standard but fairly thick creance line when they were training them. Looking forward myself to seeing the Chilean Blue when it starts training, it was jumping to the glove quite reliably last weekend.

[Andy Rabit]

Aint it great how such thoughtless threads can after 2 or 3 pages turn into quite entertaining reading with a lot more sense in the final stages of the thread.
Let BOP's do what they do best and let the 22.250 TAKE CARE OF THE FOXES:supz:

[StormRider]

Well said Andy
STU

[Barbary Boy]

We have a EEO at the foundation which we have just got back after ten days of freedom, most likely she was catching rabbits and pheasant but when we got her back, she was 10 ounces overweight so she'd obviously fed herself well!

She was handed over to us because she'd been hunting since she was 2 but had often hit the quarry so hard, she'd damaged her legs and the owner lost interest in her.

She's now sulking in hers aviary until her weight's down a bit and we can start flying her again (probably on creance for a few days!).

Wonder what she was hunted to previously? There's a fair few muntjac round here so it wouldn't surprise me if she'd had a go at one of those.
i would be?

[Hells99]

Mm, I had heard they were capable of taking down a roe deer but I've never actually heard of anyone's EEO doing so. Just wondered if anyone had ever heard of them taking anything that sort of size (or muntjac sized for that matter). Do you think that's a 'one that got away' type story then?

[Shannor]

lol, hey mom!

As for EEOs on various deer? A falconer I spent some time with over the summer did mention that some of his friends in Europe used them to hunt Sitka and Muntjac deer. That falconer seems trustworthy, but his friends might not be, so I'm not sure if it's true. (If it means anything, his 3lb hunting weight Female Red Tail can take 24lb turkeys, so an EEO taking a muntjac doesn't seem unreasonable to me, but I'm a little new to this to know very much)

[WildlifeCentre]

i have a huge eagle owl and wouldnt even think of putting any of my flesh anywhere near talons

[UKJay74]

Mm, I had heard they were capable of taking down a roe deer but I've never actually heard of anyone's EEO doing so. Just wondered if anyone had ever heard of them taking anything that sort of size (or muntjac sized for that matter). Do you think that's a 'one that got away' type story then?
i have heard of eeo's taking fox and roe deer too not too sure how accurate these claims are but have to say the power our eeo had in her talons was unbelievable :D

if it was a wild eeo i dare say it may be possible but a c/b eeo it would take some doing to get going

[Hells99]

yeah, seems like everyone's heard of it happening but no-one's seen it happen. Sort of like an urban myth! :yawinkle:

[NewBird]

yeah, seems like everyone's heard of it happening but no-one's seen it happen. Sort of like an urban myth! :yawinkle:
Well, rural myth too actually... a hunt in Devon is on record as using a EEO for this. I don't approve but I can see one hypothetical advantage ..... my local hunt is flushing to guns which is scaring the life out of one of my horses when they come near our fields. Couldn't even get her to go out to the field this morning after yesterdays hunt !!! She wouldn't care about a BOP as she is used to them.
NewBird

[Wightwings]

just found this thread EHS i had my thoughts on you.now i know...........is there not a hunting forum you can go to you muppet...

BoP and hunting packs DO NOT MIX.........DOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you ****er

[SnapIt]

I just hatched and was wondering what BOP meant.

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Its silly slang for "Bird Of Prey". Dont use it in polite company as youll be ridiculed.

[SnapIt]

Ok,
Could have figured that one out, myself:oops:

[Jackson]

from what i no i dnt fink owls are too gud for hunting bt hey u cud try bt it probly wnt take to it!