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Flying High
30-11-2005, 10:04 PM
I have seen videos and talked to a few American falconers and former employers who have hunted different species of bird together and i was just wondering if any one on hear does it and if so what birds, at what quarry and how successful.




Minty
30-11-2005, 10:26 PM
I have seen videos and talked to a few American falconers and former employers who have hunted different species of bird together and i was just wondering if any one on hear does it and if so what birds, at what quarry and how successful.

I may be wrong its just my opinion but i think that birds that are not supposed to be hunted together should not be.
The falconer is thinking more of his enjoyment at the higher risk of a bird being injured or killed. The bird should come first.
Just my opinion.

Flying High
30-11-2005, 10:32 PM
thank for you opinion. i am not planning to do it but i was just wondering if anyone over here (UK) did it because i was interest.

Wightwings
30-11-2005, 11:16 PM
HM flies a HH and a GOS i belive at the same time...........or did???

Barbary Boy
30-11-2005, 11:19 PM
HM flies a HH and a GOS i belive at the same time...........or did???
what before the gos ate the h/h?

Kevin Massey
30-11-2005, 11:29 PM
i would worry more for the gos myself

Wightwings
30-11-2005, 11:32 PM
what before the gos ate the h/h?

:supz: :supz: aint that the truth.pmsl:axe:

Wightwings
30-11-2005, 11:32 PM
i would worry more for the gos myself

ye me too JB they put on weight very easy on a good diet:rolleyes:

Barbary Boy
30-11-2005, 11:37 PM
so what do people think is hardest? a gos or a h/h?

Wightwings
30-11-2005, 11:38 PM
pmsl..been there had the thread.........what do you think..........RPMSL:roll: :lol:

Kevin Massey
01-12-2005, 12:04 AM
the 2 encounters that i have been a part of...see the harris hawk try and take the gos off the fist...... tried once with the one outing ...and numerous occations on the second..... these were two different gosses and harrises.... the harris is a crafty ******

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Kevin Massey
01-12-2005, 12:05 AM
must also say none of the harrises were mine

Shaun Byrne
01-12-2005, 06:51 AM
so what do people think is hardest? a gos or a h/h?

Gos with a gun, hard as ****!:lol:

Roberto
01-12-2005, 11:42 AM
I have a video from Spain were we can see a Gos and a Harris hunting hares
together whit no aggression between them. There is also an article wrote
by the Spanish falconer owner of one of this hawks about this particular cast.

Hawkmaster
01-12-2005, 04:29 PM
HM flies a HH and a GOS i belive at the same time...........or did???
Yes Phil, his daughter Kelly and I used to fly our birds together, they had a male and female HH each. They are now in a breeding project and we now fly their son and daughter with my female imprint Gos that must have been hatched by a HH I believe:razz: She has no malice toward them at all. We now also fly her with Shawny, my female HH, that used to belong to BFC007 and is being flown by a friend. Oh almost forgot Mikey's bird, Blue too. All sweet as a nut. They all respect her on kills and do not even come closer, but if they get there first she will bomb in any way and they all still get on.
what before the gos ate the h/h?
Never had any of that luckily.
i would worry more for the gos myself
Yes you are right those pesky HHs are very sneaky and I have seen them at meetings trying to whip off a Gos head or two, always keep an eye on them.
so what do people think is hardest? a gos or a h/h?Got to be the Gos:supz: Although Shawny is a big stubborn old monster and I do not trust her even with a ferret.

Jastreb
01-12-2005, 05:25 PM
I have a video from Spain were we can see a Gos and a Harris hunting hares
together whit no aggression between them. There is also an article wrote
by the Spanish falconer owner of one of this hawks about this particular cast.
I have this video, but I also have my personal video from one meeting in Italy-I would never like to fly HH and gos at the same time!
HH grabed that gos directly for head, but the most intresting thing is that HH was looking very calm and didn't even look at the gos, and in the next second....TEXAS MASACAR.....
Bad picture dudes, very bad!
Cheers Jastreb

HunterPaul
01-12-2005, 05:30 PM
how many hh have you been out with that try to whip calmly and sneakily, another hh off the glove.... me plenty....

Blaze
01-12-2005, 05:47 PM
how many hh have you been out with that try to whip calmly and sneakily, another hh off the glove.... me plenty....
Iv got one mate!......She's a c*nt for it...:twisted:

HunterPaul
01-12-2005, 05:48 PM
we are talking about birds here mate...not your lass....;-) how are you adam ...I will get round to sending those books mate...ive just been elsewhere lately...

Blaze
01-12-2005, 05:50 PM
we are talking about birds here mate...not your lass....;-) how are you adam ...I will get round to sending those books mate...ive just been elsewhere lately...
No problemo father........:yawinkle:

Fawkes
01-12-2005, 06:46 PM
A breeder in BC I am familiar with has flown his tiercel 7/8 GyrXprairie with his female HH, however they were raised together in front of people. I've heard of the falcon nicking food from the harris!

Afshimo
01-12-2005, 06:58 PM
My lanner and gyr/saker are right friendly with each other. One of the leashes I made up and didn't seal the top properly so it unraveled and Shiro got loose. Being a lonly thing, he went over and sat ON THE SAME PERCH! (block) with Jabbu. Both birds were waiting for food and promtly turned their heads and Jabbu chirped when I came in with their grub! they will eat next to each other, if one has food the other wont take it off. Even though jabbu is female, i think she respects shiro for his larger size and Shiro's just a friendly sod.

Oh, and before feeding, Shiro weighed 1lb 12 1/2 and Jabbu was 1lb 7. Both hungry and waiting for food.

I missed a heart beat when I saw them sittin together and shi's perch empty, and it wont be happening again lol. I've double checked my leashes and resealed them just to be sure.

SteveL
25-07-2006, 08:40 PM
I have seen videos and talked to a few American falconers and former employers who have hunted different species of bird together and i was just wondering if any one on hear does it and if so what birds, at what quarry and how successful.

My brother and i flew a female redtail and female harris together and thier was no problems best of buddies.:supz:

NGuruve
25-07-2006, 08:43 PM
hah tempting to fly my male red tail wit chackchecks female harris haha but is abit risky

Isaac
27-07-2006, 01:55 AM
I took my male HH hawk with my friends grey gos a few times last season. We never intended to fly them at the same time though. His gos was a nut case and was always trying to kill my Harris even when it was sitting on my fist.

The one time they were flown at the same time was a complete accident with scary consequences. We'd found some teal on a small pond my friend was going to wait at one end while I flushed the ducks to him. As a made my way over my Harris saw a moorhen or something in the bushes on the side of the pond and took off after it. That caused the ducks to flush and since my buddy didn't want to miss the slip he released the gos. The gos didn't even look at the ducks but went straight after my Harris in the bushes! I was about 20 yards away and there was a steep bank on the pond but I saw the gos headed for my Harris (which wasn't really mine, it was "on lease" which made it worse!) so I took off and did a flying cannon ball into the pond (didn't know how deep it was, didn't care at that moment) just as the gos hit the Harris. Luckily the water was only waist deep and I got there just as the gos hit. Because of the bushes the gos had only managed to grab a leg and didn't have a good grip. I waded over and seperated the two, threw the gos up on shore, got my bird back on the fist, managed to climb out of the pond somehow, and hunted seperately the rest of the season!!

But then again, that gos was batshiat crazy from the beginning....

ibrahim hassan
27-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Pound for pound, my money would be on the gos. Unlikley that it would catch a harris though, especially off the mark lol:supz:

NGuruve
27-07-2006, 02:32 PM
Pound for pound, my money would be on the gos. Unlikley that it would catch a harris though, especially off the mark lol:supz:
do u mean the other way round im sure the gos can catch the harris wit ease but i reckon it would be a close call and the haris would win i feel cause they always have a way lke that

BuzzBee
27-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Harris all the way:supz:

NGuruve
27-07-2006, 02:52 PM
Harris all the way:supz:
haha which bird u got your money on lol

BuzzBee
27-07-2006, 03:29 PM
Lets see.lol;)

Fawkes
24-09-2006, 09:07 PM
heres the breeder that flies his gyr/prairie with his fem HH... on of his hunting tales.. http://falconscanada.com/falcon_and_hawk.htm

Isaac
25-09-2006, 02:09 AM
I was reading somewhere recently where someone flew a merlin and a kestrel together. :shock: No, not merlin AT kestrel, but cooperatively hunting from the sound of it. Wonder what those flights were like and how that particular pair got put together. I'll have to go look for where ever I saw that post...

Grey_Squirrel_Hawker
25-09-2006, 09:07 AM
A breeder in BC I am familiar with has flown his tiercel 7/8 GyrXprairie with his female HH, however they were raised together in front of people. I've heard of the falcon nicking food from the harris!

i was wondering if that could be done, could be fun for crow hawking, get the falcon waiting on and send the haris into the trees to flush out the crows!!:supz: