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Wilfred
01-12-2005, 10:15 AM
Hello I need a lot of info from people here about what would be the best country for falconry! And not only falconry also for being able making a living there of course. Reason is that I live in Netherlands now and once and a while think about just moving to some place where I can practise the falconry in much better ways. A place with enough quirry lots of hunting grounds and a lot of space for flying falcons. As far as I know the US and Canada are best for that in Australia it is not allowed the falconry as far as I know. What I am looking for is some place that probably will be excellent for falconry for some 10 years or so at least preferably.

I am sure there are a lot of people here having info about the falconry heavens on earth. Please give as much as possible info here? About why you think this place/country is best. Quarries available. And falconry legislations (whether it is possible to get falconry license based on the ones you have from another country or that kind of info).

You can also PM me about it, of course.




IAmTheWeasel
01-12-2005, 02:20 PM
I would say that Canada has the best of both worlds. They have few rules regarding falconry(depending on the province) good game populations, but you will have to endure the weather there.....cold. The US has great game oppurtunities, but strict control over regulations concerning falconry. The UK is the opposite from what I hear. Little in the way of regulations, but harder to find good abundance of game like the US. I don't know much about the other countries rules on falconry such as Japan, South Africa, South America....

Bird_Dog
01-12-2005, 03:24 PM
I think Oklahoma is the best state for falconry in the US. It's got prairie chicken, huge duck population, Bob White quail, pheasant, rabbit, hare, squirrel among others. No sage grouse, tho. I doesn't freeze over like the northern states and it's not as hot as Texas.

-- BIRD_DOG

Biarmicus
01-12-2005, 03:29 PM
Hi,

I personally think Ontario is one of the best places in Canada to get into falconry.

A person can start with any raptor they want (except you need a licence and a sponsor for indigenous raptors). There are close to 100 to 150 licenced falconers in Ontario.

Trapping isn't allowed in Ontario, but there are several breeders in Ontario and neigboring provinces. Also hunting season for people who hunt with raptors has been extended.

Here are a few links for falconry in Ontario...

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/csb/news/jan5efs99.html

and

http://www.huntontario.com/news/index.html#Falconry

Oh, and Ontario has fairly good weather all year round.:lol:

Britt

Hawkmaster
01-12-2005, 03:53 PM
I spoke to Dave Scott about this and he said the USA first and then South Africa.

HunterPaul
01-12-2005, 05:33 PM
I think Oklahoma is the best state for falconry in the US. It's got prairie chicken, huge duck population, Bob White quail, pheasant, rabbit, hare, squirrel among others. No sage grouse, tho. I doesn't freeze over like the northern states and it's not as hot as Texas.

-- BIRD_DOG
sounds fantastic ...im moving...

Barbary Boy
01-12-2005, 05:37 PM
i really think northumberland cant be beaten its just getting the permission thats the problem?never used to be ? but there are so many ar****les around now farmers are getting a little pi**ed off!

HunterPaul
01-12-2005, 05:46 PM
how many people all over the country get refused land because some dick with a rifle dog or bird has been on there in the past and ******ed it up for everyone in the future...it comes to something when the hunter is a bigger pest than the pest species...

Sean
01-12-2005, 06:28 PM
and there are places in the states were youve got the right to just walk the place, without permission and hunt away :O

Fawkes
01-12-2005, 06:40 PM
I havent done much hunting at all, but the regulations in BC go something like this:

To keep a BOP you need an appropriately sized pen (8' X 8') and a government official needs to come and inspect it. You can then keep any bird you want that is captive bred (might need proof of 2yr experience for peregrines and gyrs) and to fly it need a falconry permit.
Trapping of native species is allowed, though peregrines and Gyrs require a different permit from RT, Goshawks, merlins, cooper's etc.

Theres plenty of ducks, geese, grouse and quail, and hunting is allowed on crown land (most of the province), as far as I know, without asking anyone's permission. On Vancouver Island we have invasive European rabbits which you can hunt all year, though ferreting is illegal. Starlings can also be hunted year round. For fur, we have cottontail rabbits - which dont live in burrows and have a hunting season - the prairies have jack rabbits (basically a hare) and gophers - but there is little of this habitat in BC. Not sure what other fur people would hunt with a bird.

Most of the country does have cold winters tho - the interior of BC can get to -35 or -40 celcius and the prairies much colder. Northern coastal BC, however rarely gets below -15C, and in the lower mainland and on Vancouver Island we typically do not get snow (but for a week in January).

Hmm.. now that I look at it objectively, BC looks like a great place for falconry!

Smelleken
01-12-2005, 06:45 PM
Zit je weer met je hoofd in de wolken, Nederland is echt zo gek nog niet.
Man wees creatief en vind de sleutel van pandora, zodat je een doos vol met mogelijkheden kan openen.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Robert

Barbary Boy
01-12-2005, 07:50 PM
couldnt aggree more mate, spot on.

Hawkmaster
01-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Zit je weer met je hoofd in de wolken, Nederland is echt zo gek nog niet.
Man wees creatief en vind de sleutel van pandora, zodat je een doos vol met mogelijkheden kan openen.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Robert

TRANSLATION:
You sit with your head in the clouds, the Netherlands is not really this crazy yet. A man that indicates thing creatively and finds to the key of Pandora, so that you can open a box full with possibilities. Kind regards, Robert

Flying High
01-12-2005, 10:21 PM
TRANSLATION:
You sit with your head in the clouds, the Netherlands is not really this crazy yet. A man that indicates thing creatively and finds to the key of Pandora, so that you can open a box full with possibilities. Kind regards, Robert

cheers for that. that help i so got it wrong that for putting it right

Smelleken
02-12-2005, 07:57 AM
Dear friends,

Sorry my translation part of my brain was broke yesterday.

Robert

HunterPaul
02-12-2005, 10:55 AM
i just thought it was one of flying highs posts....:twisted: :lol: :wink:

Wilfred
02-12-2005, 03:09 PM
well i did not have my head in the clouds when asking for falconry heaven I just really go to decide next two years or so whether to move or not.

Maybe now i have my head in the clouds just seen the awsome pictures of hawk eagles here on the forum think I will try to learn more about "steinadler" ( i believe it is golden translated not sure get mostly mixed up with english terms for eagle still) training soon and then maybe sometime in future moving and flying some hawk eagle. Its the most facinating bird of preys ive ever seen. Some guy i spoke with a lot on another forum also flew 2 of them. And i did read some about it but not that much in "falconry in the land of the sun" some info is but not that much as here on the forum now.

It sometimes is not bad having your head in the cloud. And it may even be the clouds disappear and "suddenly" your dreams come true.