lost FHH, east of glasgow.

[Harrisii]

Lost near annathill, moodiesburn area. north east of glasgow, west of cumbernauld. wearing tail bell, permanent fliers, telemetry, on leg.


well folks, ellie has flown the coop.
was out with her yesterday and she was doing well, slope-soaring etc, and responding well, she then sailed out into the wind and flew off towards a woodland. i tracked her there with the telemetry and was getting a signal then it went wonky and i lost the signal. i returned to the car to replace the battery on the reciever, (which was fine), and picked up a signal at the farm.
The only place i could recieve a signal was the farm where i parked the car and a strong signal at that. but she wasnt there. i thought that the signal must have been bouncing off the buildings and she must be close, so i searched close by. (the farm is close to where i last saw her).

i searched high, low, far and wide and couldnt pick up the signal again, only at the farm. i couldnt understand it. this drew my attention away from other areas as i thought she must have been there.
anyway, i returned to this farm after dark to let them know that i didnt find her. i could still pick up a signal here. i asked them to keep an eye out and would be back the following day. we got chatting about the signal and why it should be strong here. i was beginning to think she was i their house having tea. anyway. this farm doubles as a haulage yard. the woman pointed out that they had a tracking system for their lorries. Ah!! i asked where the anteni was and she pointed to the from of the building to a small ariel type thing. what do you know? this is the signal i had been picking up and that was interfering with my telemetry. B*st*rd! chasing shadows all over the place.

needless to say i never got her despite being out all night with the telemetry ciricling the area. only thing i could pick up was haulage yards, a huge CB ariel and every HGV in the nieghbourhood.
i aint sure if the systyem is now ****ed and wont pick her up after all the interference but it aint working right anymore, and i aint gona find her this way. help needed.
i have rung IBR, and she is ringed and registered, i am just hopefull that she is found by the right person and not some arse.

posters are out, farms have been visited, etc, etc, just a case of waiting.
no doubt, i will be chasing buzzards all over the countryside for the next few weeks. wish me luck folks, i need it.

[Tarqers]

go back to that woodland you mention in 1st paragragh,try there, try to remember tthe wind direction and then try the next cover in that direction etc,,,tarqs

[Harrisii]

go back to that woodland you mention in 1st paragragh,try there, try to remember tthe wind direction and then try the next cover in that direction etc,,,tarqs

cheers T, been there done that, will be doing it again.

[BFC 007]

sorry to hear this
get offline & get out there
all the best mate

[Tarqers]

sound like your transmitter might be defunked but keep trying he may just have taken a bath,,,,tarqs

[Loopy]

Good luck, I hope you find her soon.

[DeathFromAbove]

Sorry to hear she ******ed off mate..... I'm sure you'll find her tho... they won't go too far so i think she's prob in a nearby woodland kicking **** out of the local wildlife. A friend of mine lost his for over 18 months and got her back!!! It can be done! have no fear.

[Moses]

harrisi so sorry to hear that mate, i hope to God u find her soon mate

[Kentish Falconry]

cheers T, been there done that, will be doing it again.

Is there any of your mates in the area with telemetry that matches yours for frequency? If there is ask them to go out with you and try their set as it may be your reciever playing up. Also if you can lay your hands on a Mag Mounted antenna and drive around locally you may get a signal it's worth a try. HH do not normally stray far from where you loose them, normally within a mile or 2, and she may just return to where you were flying to look for you. Don't give up I am sure you will find her soon.
Best of luck M8 shame your so far from us or we would help you ourselves.
ATB
Terry:)

[ScotsFalconer]

if shes got telelmetry wats signal u on and ill turn on my receiver for u in falkirk and let to know if i get anything

[HunterPaul]

have you flown her with other harris' if so try taking out another bird she is familiar with... if she is down on anythig it will spot her way before you do...also they get the competetive thing on the go, this may attract her back to your vicinity if the other bird is in the air ...look out for her being mobbed.... and is she wearing bells ...keep those ears open... swing a lure etc ... but remember to look down as well asup ...she may be on a kill or down a hole.... get to the area before light ..as if you get a cold night she will be hungry and your the easy meal.... then as the light hits start the calling swinging etc...she may with any luck come a looking for you... good luck mate wish i was there to help physically...

[Harrisii]

if shes got telelmetry wats signal u on and ill turn on my receiver for u in falkirk and let to know if i get anything

you never know SF, the winds we have got today she could be closer to you than me. in fact she could be closer to edinburgh.
been out all day trying to get a signal, no luck apart from when i tracked a signal to a small woodland with a lovely cottage inside. squirrels on the feeders, rabbits and doves on the lawn, songbirds in the trees. get the picture, well, i knew she wasnt there with all this wildlife about. i got a strong signal from the house apparently the old woman has a thing for calling for a home help, alarm type thingy. must have been that. anyway wasnt her.

the telemetry. no one has got the same one. its a skytrack system. ********.
i went to get the lukesander from my mates house but it was at another mates house and he was at work. whats the chances eh??
sods law i think they call it. prey for me folks.

[Harrisii]

thanks guys, i guess you all know what its like eh? not good.
i may try that HP, cheers mate, she is flown in a cast with my wee male.
i will go back but as far as the telemetry goes i dont think i can count on it.
another thing. the gales up here today have been really something so she could well be blown halfway accross the country by now.
if only i had got the lukesander it wouldnt have come to this. i will kick her arse when i get her. thanks for your support guys, appreciated. will keep you updated as to any developments.

[HunterPaul]

my mate found his bird the other day using my bird ... it had been out all night and she found him on a moorhen.... nearly started his moult off...lol again ill cross my fingers for you..

[BrianM]

i am in airdrie mate i will turn mine on and have a bash

[Big JoeJoe]

Good luck finding your harris hawk mate.
JOE

[Harrisii]

i am in airdrie mate i will turn mine on and have a bash

cheers brian your a gem.

she was lost around annathill, but with wind direction etc she could well be up towards luggiebank, glenmavis area, there abouts.
if you hear anything give me a shout mate, appreciated.

[MickeyDredd]

another thing. the gales up here today have been really something so she could well be blown halfway accross the country by now.


if she killed when you lost her she probably wont have gone up in the gales, so could well still be in the general area she was lost.

Good luck mate.

[Harrisii]

ive been over the same ground again and again and widened the search to no avail.
what more can i do??
no signal from the telem', and i guess the batteries will be fading now.
been round all the farms and posters are up.
keep yer fingers crossed.

[RWR]

let me know if you here anything mate . I will phone you on wednesday about us meeting up next week end . Good luck hope you find her she is an excllent bird

[BrianM]

dont give up mate, i lost my fhh last summer ( broken swivel) got her back nearly a fotnight later , she was caught less than a quarter of a mile away


chin up

[Ben C]

Colin,

It will return mate.........keep at it. It will turn up within a 10 mile radius I reckon.........:supz: :goodman:

[ScotsFalconer]

tried it yesterday and today no luck

[AndyYounger]

Hi

i am heading to glasgow later today and tomorrow i have a car ariel and a 173 reciever do you have any idea of the frequency an i can keep a look out as i am driving
Andy

[Harrisii]

no idea of the frequency andy, sorry mate.
ive been all over the shop and have been out at nights trying to get a signal but no joy.
ive no problem believing she will survive and do ok. she is an awesome hunting bird, fully fit and game as they come.
just hope its the right kind of person that finds her not some ******. you know the things that go through the head. someone has shot her, hit by a car, etc, etc.
hope to see her soon, and i wont give up hope. i am aware she could return at any point. just hope ibr phone me soon.
i feel very useless as there aint much i can do. just wait and pray.
thanks for your posts guys,
PF speak to ya soon mate.

[BrianM]

get in touch with david or alan at cumbernauld outdoor activity/ falconry center.. if the bird is found they will know about before the ibr the local wildlife officer contacts them first if a bop is found in this area

[Harrisii]

first reported sighting of ellie today.
got a call about 3.00 from a guy who has a small holding close to where she was lost. he was in some woodland and was watching the deer when a bird, he thought was a buzzard flew into the woodland above them. he watched it a while then noticed the jesses on her. he gave me a call but i was miles away. i called my mate and he went to the area and was shown where she was but she had moved on. good thing is that she was little more than a mile from where i lost her despite the gales we have been having. i guess she has caught something and is hanging around here. i got there about an hour later and 5 of us split up and walked the fields swinging lures and whistling, but to no avail. we never saw her. i was searching down-wind from where she went missing. she was spotted upwind about a mile or so.
i will return tomorrow and have a look.

one small problem which has got me worried.
there is another small holding about 1/2 a mile from this sighting.
the guy has chickens etc and it would definately appeal to a hungry hawk.
so i asked my mate to go there and speak to the people whilst i went to another farm.
my mate went just to let them know and to ask them to keep an eye out and that if she showed up here and happened to take a chicken that they would be reimbursed and compensated etc.
the ****** there said that if she shows up there he would waste no time in shooting her. pure *****. he would skewer her etc.
this guy is a ***** and even went as far to say he puts bait out for the buzzards (dead rabbit) so he can shoot them. he hates birds of prey.
i have to find her before he does. so will be there tomorrow.
i know the wildlife liason officer and although he aint breaking the law by putting bait out, the WLO will waist to time in going to his door. he is real staunch.
problem is, he will know where it has come from and then he will possibly actively seek out my bird and shoot her. he has permission to shoot over all the land where she has been seen etc.
there is also a chance the guy is full of **** and hot air. but i doubt it.
problem is ive had a few days off work looking for her and now i have to go back tomorrow. i will sneak off though and go and have a look. here is hoping.

[Moses]

first reported sighting of ellie today.
got a call about 3.00 from a guy who has a small holding close to where she was lost. he was in some woodland and was watching the deer when a bird, he thought was a buzzard flew into the woodland above them. he watched it a while then noticed the jesses on her. he gave me a call but i was miles away. i called my mate and he went to the area and was shown where she was but she had moved on. good thing is that she was little more than a mile from where i lost her despite the gales we have been having. i guess she has caught something and is hanging around here. i got there about an hour later and 5 of us split up and walked the fields swinging lures and whistling, but to no avail. we never saw her. i was searching down-wind from where she went missing. she was spotted upwind about a mile or so.
i will return tomorrow and have a look.

one small problem which has got me worried.
there is another small holding about 1/2 a mile from this sighting.
the guy has chickens etc and it would definately appeal to a hungry hawk.
so i asked my mate to go there and speak to the people whilst i went to another farm.
my mate went just to let them know and to ask them to keep an eye out and that if she showed up here and happened to take a chicken that they would be reimbursed and compensated etc.
the ****** there said that if she shows up there he would waste no time in shooting her. pure *****. he would skewer her etc.
this guy is a ***** and even went as far to say he puts bait out for the buzzards (dead rabbit) so he can shoot them. he hates birds of prey.
i have to find her before he does. so will be there tomorrow.
i know the wildlife liason officer and although he aint breaking the law by putting bait out, the WLO will waist to time in going to his door. he is real staunch.
problem is, he will know where it has come from and then he will possibly actively seek out my bird and shoot her. he has permission to shoot over all the land where she has been seen etc.
there is also a chance the guy is full of **** and hot air. but i doubt it.
problem is ive had a few days off work looking for her and now i have to go back tomorrow. i will sneak off though and go and have a look. here is hoping.


thats sad if thats the attitude he had mate even when your mate told him he will be compensated , seems a right asshole, he knows the law is in his side thats why he is being an arse

[Maxwell]

Good luck mate - this is frustrating - keep us informed...

As you say - she can look after herself - it's the other ******s...

How many have you got looking - can you be more specific about the sighting area - I'm across Stirling way tomorrow and can divert for a couple of hours...

Makes my blood boil...

[Harrisii]

the area where she has been seen is near Glenboig village.
thats app, 3.5 miles north of coatbridge.
close to the M80, junc' 2a.
i am surprized she is still in the area, its been a few days now and the weather aint been great with gales every day since.
anyway, i shall post any info as/when it comes.
cheers.

[Graham Stuart]

the weather is bad so she will prob be hiding in the woodland for cover, i could go sort that ass hole out for you, shove a dead rabbit up his arse and shoot the *******...:evil:

[Harrisii]

the weather is bad so she will prob be hiding in the woodland for cover, i could go sort that ass hole out for you, shove a dead rabbit up his arse and shoot the *******...:evil:

first priority is getting ellie. if when i get her back, i shall deal with this c*nt.
just hope she return safe as there are no shortage of these types about.
my pride and joy is my hawks, his is his peacocks.
anyone know what peacock tastes like???
i will be speaking to the WLO, the local authority countryside rangers etc.
this guy was investigated for setting badger snares last year, but no proof.
setting snares on traditional badger routes is just nasty. he knew what he was doing.
got a few things to sort out at work then i will be going over to look for ellie.

[Talon]

hope you get your bird back safe & sound..good look

[Harrisii]

a massive thanks to maxwell of the forum who so selflessly gave up their free time to come out and help me look for ellie today.
fantastic. trapsing the fields in cold, wet conditions swinging a lure and calling on her, thanks ever so much Maxwell.
no i wasnt leaning on a gate watching, i was searching too.

got called away to work later and she stayed on to look. what an absolute star.
great many thanks to maxwell, and if there is anything i can do for you whatsoever than just pm me, anything at all.

still no sign of ellie and to be honest i am doubting the sighting we recieved yesterday. with the gales etc we have been having its doubtful she would have went up-wind. still you never know.
also got a call from the IBR who had a reported sighting of a harris in "Forth", south lanarkshire. went to check it out this morning but all i could find was buzzards where the sighting was reportedly from.
whats worse a wild goose chase, or chasing a wild buzzard.

fingers are still crossed.
thanks Max, your a gem.

[Osiris]

a massive thanks to maxwell of the forum who so selflessly gave up their free time to come out and help me look for ellie today.
fantastic. trapsing the fields in cold, wet conditions swinging a lure and calling on her, thanks ever so much Maxwell.
no i wasnt leaning on a gate watching, i was searching too.

got called away to work later and she stayed on to look. what an absolute star.
great many thanks to maxwell, and if there is anything i can do for you whatsoever than just pm me, anything at all.

still no sign of ellie and to be honest i am doubting the sighting we recieved yesterday. with the gales etc we have been having its doubtful she would have went up-wind. still you never know.
also got a call from the IBR who had a reported sighting of a harris in "Forth", south lanarkshire. went to check it out this morning but all i could find was buzzards where the sighting was reportedly from.
whats worse a wild goose chase, or chasing a wild buzzard.

fingers are still crossed.
thanks Max, your a gem.

i do hope you find her m8. I am hopefully coming up that way sometime next week, so i will drop you a PM :D

All the best in finding her m8 - dont give up hope :D

cheers, jamie

[Stephen]

hope you find her m8 don`t lose hope i lost my fhh for nearly 5 weeks
and got her back the other side of the hill
i got a hawkfinder dont know if its the same as yours but will put it on when im up that way 2morrow

[Sean]

hey harrisii, have u tried flying another harris nearby, and maybe teh bird will come out

[OutFlying]

harrisi,
I know you don't know the exact frequency of the transmitter but was the system on 216mhz or 173mhz ?

I think this acts as a lesson for all users of telemetry, make a note of the actual channel, tuning point and frequency - this will enable others to help if needed.

OF.

[Harrisii]

hope you find her m8 don`t lose hope i lost my fhh for nearly 5 weeks
and got her back the other side of the hill
i got a hawkfinder dont know if its the same as yours but will put it on when im up that way 2morrow

similar type mate, skytrack. 433.92 mhz
problem is the batteries will be dead anyway so i dont even bother taking the reciever out anymore. no point.
ive been off work looking for ellie for the past wee while but had to return today. luckily i got away for a few hours to look for her but got distracted by the Forth sighting and headed off there to take a look.
next i am off is wednesday and i shall be going out with my male HH to see if i can temp her out. lots of walking to be done.
with the gales we were experiencing i refrained from taking the wee man out before now as i didnt want another accident. hopefully the weather will be better come wednesday and i shall go for a long walk with him.

as i mentioned i dont think she is here anymore.
i reckon the sighting was a misguided one and it wasnt her.

the ****** which threatened to shoot her is still adament.
ive a mate who is a countryside ranger and unknown to me went to his door yesterday as he has been shooting foxes and displaying them on the side of the road at his house.
he told my mate that he does it to annoy people and how he has been trying to kill the sparrowhawk which visits his garden and the buzzards also.
he spoke of the missing hawk, (ellie) and how he was going to shoot her. my mate didnt know it was my hawk till today.
this guy is (in his words) a head case. who would admit to trying to kill protected birds to a countryside ranger?? and who in their right head would display foxes at the front of his house?? complete nutter.

i just hope she is well away from here and doing ok. i will catch up with her soon enough.
thanks to all for your support and best wishes, appreciated.

[Moses]

a massive thanks to maxwell of the forum who so selflessly gave up their free time to come out and help me look for ellie today.
fantastic. trapsing the fields in cold, wet conditions swinging a lure and calling on her, thanks ever so much Maxwell.
no i wasnt leaning on a gate watching, i was searching too.

got called away to work later and she stayed on to look. what an absolute star.
great many thanks to maxwell, and if there is anything i can do for you whatsoever than just pm me, anything at all.

still no sign of ellie and to be honest i am doubting the sighting we recieved yesterday. with the gales etc we have been having its doubtful she would have went up-wind. still you never know.
also got a call from the IBR who had a reported sighting of a harris in "Forth", south lanarkshire. went to check it out this morning but all i could find was buzzards where the sighting was reportedly from.
whats worse a wild goose chase, or chasing a wild buzzard.

fingers are still crossed.
thanks Max, your a gem.


nice one maxwell :)

[Wightwings]

harrisi,
I know you don't know the exact frequency of the transmitter but was the system on 216mhz or 173mhz ?

I think this acts as a lesson for all users of telemetry, make a note of the actual channel, tuning point and frequency - this will enable others to help if needed.

OF.

sensible sensible advise......keep the faith Harrisii........

[Kevin Massey]

is the frequency not on the reciept?..from where you bought it

[Harrisii]

is the frequency not on the reciept?..from where you bought it

skytrack. 433.92 mhz

it is irrespective now as the batteries will be goosed and to be honest, i believe the system failed on the day. interference with the tracking system from the haulage yard i believe has messed it up.

[Kevin Massey]

skytrack. 433.92 mhz

it is irrespective now as the batteries will be goosed and to be honest, i believe the system failed on the day. interference with the tracking system from the haulage yard i believe has messed it up.

sorry shag i didnt see that...i thought it may help ya.

have you had any more reports..... also have you contacted the local radio?

[Stephen]

hope you get her back then before that d**k sees her m8
ill look out for her 2 morrow ment to be going up that way
all the best

[Harrisii]

thanks guys.
ive had a report of a harris up in Forth. i went up but could only see buzzards.
quite a bit away but with the gales it aint impossible.
still waiting for someone to get back to me.
got a call from IBR telling me of the sighting. got home and logged onto the forum to find a PM from a guy who saw it or reported it, still waiting to hear from him. are you out there JB29??

[Maxwell]

Was this Pm also a sighting in Forth or somewhere else?

[Harrisii]

Was this Pm also a sighting in Forth or somewhere else?

Yes maxwell, the sighting was in Forth.
it was from a gent who does some work at Dryburgh Faconry centre.
They got a call yesterday reporting the harris. apparently the person who saw it knows about these things so they are confident it was a positive sighting. The centre then contacted the IBR who in turn contacted me.

ITS A POSSIBLE.
It may not be ellie but someone else could be missing a harris.
2 sighting 1 day apart, 15 miles apart. mmmmmmmmmm???
I am doubting the first initial sighting where she was lost. The gales etc have caused me to think she is not in this area any more. Forth?? mmm, not sure but in any case it would appear there is a harris in and around this area.

[Maxwell]

15 miles isn't too much esp. if you wonder about the first sighting anyway and also as its been so windy although wind direction doesn't really support Forth does it? Or does it?
But fingers crossed - you never know.

[Stephen]

my kestrel went missing not that long ago for a week and ended up 6 miles
away and in cold frosty weather no wind
so 15 miles for a harris in gales could be her keep us posted m8

[Sean]

my mate lost his male, and it was found 20 miles away, the following day!

[Kentish Falconry]

Don't give up I am sure you will get her back pretty soon
ATB
Terry:)

[Andy Rabit]

HI Harrisii,
I am only a few miles away from Forth and also know 3 or 4 local falconers in that imediate area, i will contact them and tell them to be on the alert and will also keep a close eye on things around my area.
Fingers crossed for you m8.

[Maxwell]

Brilliant - that's what's needed I think - a few more people actively looking in their own area.
There are quite a few members around about where Ellie was lost - get yourselves out there and swing a lure - she may show herself! I've had a go - but not being local - I wasted a lot of time trying to find my way around - a few busy roads around there - you can't exactly wander across the motorway swinging a lure (although some may suggest I do so!)
The more the merrier - hope she's found soon.

[Maxwell]

Good Luck today mate.
Keep us posted.

[Andy Rabit]

HI HARRISII,
I don't know if this is of any use to you at all but i was traveling along the A70 between Carnwath & Carstaires village today at aprox 10.20 am when i saw a white ford escort estate traveling slow with about 3 cars quewed behind it. As i was along side the escort ther was a large mature Harris in conflict with a group of crows/rooks in the air along side the main road ! Does she hunt crows?
At that point i was traveling about 60mph so couldn't stop but went further along about 400yrds to turn came back to the area i saw it and sat for about 15min but saw nothing.
Now if this was someone flying out of the car window i am not sure, but if they were they are very iresponsible and sooner or latter are going to cause a serious accident or end up with one dead Harris as (1) This is a very buisy road (2) they had no idea the traffic was behind them.
On the other hand the escourt and its ocupants could have been totaly inocent and just watching the hawk with the crows?
Where i saw this is only a very short distance as the crow fly from Forth.
PM me if i can be of further asistance