New Hood patterns

[SakerJack]

Over the next few weeks I am going to give out some interesting hood patterns,
Included with the patterns will be instructions on how to make the hoods so that if you get stumped I will be there to help.
Patterns will consisit of the Maynes Hawk Hood, the Tongued Anglo, three different styles of braceless Kazakh Eagle hoods, two variations of Khan Hoods and the list may go on..
I am just deciding on which to deliver to the forum first and how to get the pattern out in the correct size so that you will have a pattern that will fit numerous styles of blocks without having to size the pattern,,,
Stay Tuned
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[Morb]

Sounds great Ken, can't wait to see them.

Ron

[ParaButeo78]

That will be great!
I have just made my very first hood, an anglo-indian. Never intended to go on a bird though, wouldn't want to do that to any one!
But it looks nice and the braces work nicely. And most of all, it was great fun to do it, so I will try to keep this up!
Look forward to seeing patterns!

[SakerJack]

I have the following hood patterns ready for any hoodmakers out there.

Kazakh "Berkutchi" Hunter Field Hoods- designed for eagles these are braceless and are very simple to make, these do not have to be blocked.

The "Maynes" Hawk Hood- ideal for all hawks and this hood has a tongue to prevent the nape feathers from getting "Pinched". This hood can be made simply, glued or sewn and does not need blocking.

Hungarian Eagle Hood- based on a syrian pattern that I got many years ago, and has an arab back which again prevents pinching. Need to block this hood style.
Anyone wanting these patterns can PM me. Happy Hood making!!
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[GriffMJ]

Kazakh "Berkutchi" Hunter Field Hoods- designed for eagles these are braceless and are very simple to make, these do not have to be blocked.

Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

This hood pattern that Mr Hooke is giving out will not fit Eagles as it is, but have a go anyway!

My pattern is a derivative of the pattern seen in the International Falconer Magazine (Issue 20 2003) and also disscussions held with Alan Gates at the Falconers fair last year and also original Kazakh hoods (that fit) supplied by Alan and made by Kahsim Narbeck. Both of my patterns have been tried and tested on Golden Eagles of both sexes and also Steppe Eagle and Hybrids, each of my patterns fit the Eagles they are intended for .... here are two examples below:

Berkutchi Hunter designed for the Steppe Eagle (This particular Pattern will not fit a Golden however I do have a Golden Eagle Version)
http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/images/Eagle/Berkutchi/Steppe2.JPG

Kazakh Hunter on a Male Golden Eagle (Showing the Gape Covered version)
http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/images/examples/kazakhNeil.JPG

Each of these hoods are designed as FIELD hoods only and should not be used when the Eagle is to be left unattended.

Patterns are not copywrited and its the height of arrogance to assume that a pattern is yours specifically.... as all patterns will vary by actual design... a varience on a theme.

Here is an example of a varied pattern:-

German varient: Unknown maker
http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/images/Different/khan1.JPG

Spanish Varient: Adolofo Ruiz, Spain (Note the sewn in braces)
http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/images/Different/spanish2.JPG

I have have more pics of the same pattern by different makers but i am limited on pics in this thread.
This style of hood is claimed as an original by one hoodmaker alone!? The origins of this pattern appear to be in India!?

[SakerJack]

Griff,
Say all you want, these patterns DO FIT, besides you have never even seen the pattern that I am giving out. Like you said, each hoodmaker prefers a certain look on their bird. Every pattern I get I "Tweek" to make it fit the way I want. The Kazakh Hood is a simple hood to make, there is nothing magical about any hood, especially these.
I have never once said that it was my pattern or hood, but when one gives a fellow hoodmaker a pattern and that maker agrees never to sell the hood or put it on his site I would say he should honour it, am I correct?
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[James_Falconry1]

Griff

What are the differences between the pattern you use and Sakerjacks pattern. I have never seen an eagle hood and just wonder why.

Who has said any of the patterns are there design?

[SakerJack]

Forum,
I am not going to use this type of communication to bad mouth, bash what have you another falconer or hoodmaker.
Simply, I just want to offer some patterns that I have, that I have created,or recieved from other hoodmakers and share it with other hoodmakers out there.
Bashing should be left to the individuals themselves in a pub someplace, not on a public forum..
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[FreeFlight]

Here is not a place to market challenges, If you think that a pattern doesn't fit, just say what's wrong etc... but don't compare them with yours, using marketing arguments(trying to prove that your hood are the best and noone need to make hoods, instead it just buy it from you). it just create a monopoly and it's not good for anyone but the owner of the mark.
Let's continue discussing facts, changing ideas and hood patterns.........hoping that those business men find their way.

Sakerjack i'm waiting to see you pattern, pm if you want.

Regards!

[GriffMJ]

Depends how "shafted" one hoodmaker feels by the other!

Whats the reason for taking all of your Eagle hoods off your site ....apart from your version of the Kazakh?

[James_Falconry1]

Your in two different countries to be far your not affecting each others business. There are more than two hood makers in the world and they all amke their money.

[Tim Laycock]

Here is not a place to market challenges, If you think that a pattern doesn't fit, just say what's wrong etc... but don't compare them with yours, using marketing arguments(trying to prove that your hood are the best and noone need to make hoods, instead it just buy it from you). it just create a monopoly and it's not good for anyone but the owner of the mark.
Let's continue discussing facts, changing ideas and hood patterns.........hoping that those business men find their way.

Sakerjack i'm waiting to see you pattern, pm if you want.

Regards!

Im as interested to see the pattern as you are but dont lay into Griff, you have no more idea what has gone on here than I do but one thing I will tell you is that Griff has no interest in creating a "hood monopoly"

As hoodmakers go he is the most keen to help amateurs like myself that I have ever come across.

[FreeFlight]

Im as interested to see the pattern as you are but dont lay into Griff, you have no more idea what has gone on here than I do but one thing I will tell you is that Griff has no interest in creating a "hood monopoly"

As hoodmakers go he is the most keen to help amateurs like myself that I have ever come across.

I just said about what's written in the forum, that's enough...
sorry but doesn't matter if you have more or less idea than me and more one time i repeat, What I said were about what was written in the forum.

Regards!

[Lee Slikkers]

Well, I don't know Griff from Adam but I can say that I met Ken via the internet and he has been more than giving and helpful during my struggles to make a decent hood. He has willingly waded through all my emails and helped me sort out all sorts of various issues I was stuck with...

Ken is a top notch guy and anyone saying anything different porbably has motives to the contrary...

We're all grown ups here (or should be) so how about we use this form o communication to learn things from one another instead of beating each other down??

Regards,

Lee

[Pink_Eagle]

Hi hello i would be really interested in the hawk hood pattern

[StormRider]

Hi hello i would be really interested in the hawk hood pattern
I think this proves the point guys. Here is a genuine newcomer who wants to obtain info on hoods. Is this not why the forum exist and the whole point of this thread? I dont make my own hoods but someday would love to learn. If I buy a bad fitting hood, a thread like this will give me the potential knowledge to adjust the hood myself without having to keep sending it back and forwards to the original maker. I for one would love to see more hood patterns and certainly more ideas. Is this not how falconry practices evolve? Keep em coming.
STU

[SakerJack]

Hello Sophie,
The smallest I have ever made a hood for was for a coopers hawk,, I can probably I have the smaller blocks, just never have been asked for anything smaller. I can do you a template for north american kestrel,small merlin . The Maynes hawk hood was designed for larger hawks, lets work together and we can come up with a hood for your sized bird.
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[SakerJack]

I have over 75 patterns, I cannot put them all on the forum but as we progress there will be plenty of patterns for you to pick and choose.
As well I will try to pass on alot of what I learned regarding types of leathers to use, dyes, glue, threads, tooling and how to alter a pattern that is not suited to his or her style of hoodmaking..
I will help all that are interested. Feel free to PM me .
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[Morb]

Ken

I would be interested in the Maynes Hawk Hood. What oz. leather do you find is best for hoods?

Thanks

Ron

[SakerJack]

Morb,
No problem the Maynes or just plain "Hawk Hood" as some call it, is a simple very useful hood that is easy to make and does need blocking.
Send me a PM and I will look after you.
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[SakerJack]

Morb,
As for weight of leather, get Oak Leaf Tooling Hide( Tandys) in a 2-3oz for birds smaller than a male gos, perhaps then a 3-4 oz for larger birds.
When looking for leather you always find hides that are suppose to be the same weight but one is always a bit softer and not as rigid, some like the soft I like the rigid, personal preference really!!
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[SakerJack]

Maynes Hawk hood does NOT need blocking!!
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International

[Morb]

Morb,
As for weight of leather, get Oak Leaf Tooling Hide( Tandys) in a 2-3oz for birds smaller than a male gos, perhaps then a 3-4 oz for larger birds.
When looking for leather you always find hides that are suppose to be the same weight but one is always a bit softer and not as rigid, some like the soft I like the rigid, personal preference really!!
Sakerjack
Ken Hooke
Falconry Hoods International



I get Tandy fliers in the mail. I'll be ordering some and give it a try.

Thanks
Ron

[Fawkes]

SakerJack, could you post a picture of a Maynes hawk hood? I dont know what it looks like but am interested in this tongue bit. Is it difficult to make?

[Artáliga]

Hello,
Are hoods are made ​​by me, not by Mr. Adolfo sound ... Greetings from Spain.