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Old 09-06-2017, 04:40 PM
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Hi Rene,
Yes, I found that to be a very interesting read, it was one of the better ones I came across when googling the topic. Finding a vet with a specific knowledge of both owls and prolapses isn't always easy, but if you know of an owl specialist who has experience with this I would love to know their contact details. This one does know enough about avian medicine for me to feel as though my owl is in capable hands as the diet side of things I can fortunately find out more about on helpful forums like this one. The vet had already put 2 stitches into her as a temporary fix and she is on antibiotic and anti-inflammatory medication, so I really only need to worry about what to feed her while the medication and stitches do their thing.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:26 PM
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Clive, that looks like quite a production effort, how long does this amount usually last you and for how many chicks? It's hard to tell from the photos but do you skin the rats and DOCs too, and do you gut everything? I would have to work out what a good replacement for the pigeon component is, but that might just come in handy.

There has been a bit of talk around legalising falconry, personally I don't mind either way but it would be nice to have more gear available locally postage cost and time can be a real pain, especially for things like swivels and gloves, which sometimes aren't always the same quality advertised. We do have the advantage of getting kangaroo hides easily though, and most of the raptor community here swears by that for jesses.

The barn owl is an adult, she's 12 years old.
The main reason I'm wanting to get the supplements right is that there's a concern she has a calcium deficiency which has contributed to the prolapse. I might not worry about the rest of the vitamins and focus on just supplementing calcium/vitamin D.
Hi. Clive's mix you can do in any quantity just change the 25 to whatever number you want 1 of each 3 of each etc that way you won't need a wheelbarrow
I don't understand why you would have to feed minced food as everything that isn't regurgitated is passed as a sloppy semi liquid form. I don't think mincing it will make it come out any easier. If you give a baby powdered milk it can still get constipation if you get what I mean. Could the vet mean feed minced food so that the bird does not strain when tearing the food?
As for the vitamins I'd be inclined to use the insectivore ones even though generic should be fine. Owls eat insects and even a lot of seed eating birds feed their chicks insects so that would be my choice
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:05 PM
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Very interesting read indeed. I have a healthy bird here that's just really fussy with eating on his own. He demands force feeding on a daily basis. He's been checked out and all cleared by the doc and there's nothing wrong with him. Some how he just doesn't want to eat on his own. I think it has became a habit where it will only eat on his own when it's really really hungry. We can't allow that because then his weight would drop drastically.

This minced meat method is a great way for me to give my bird a good all-around diet, he's already a year old so I can't have the fur and bones removed. The question I have is this, since everything is minced can the bird still throw pellets properly?
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:17 PM
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Hi Billy

The food mix I have prepared is for very young chicks and would not have anything in it for them to produce a pellet.

I don’t know the situation of your hawk’s condition but force feeding is not normal or the fact he won’t feed on his own.

I would maybe get an avian specialist vet to take a look for a second opinion.

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Old 07-11-2017, 03:32 PM
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Hi Billy

The food mix I have prepared is for very young chicks and would not have anything in it for them to produce a pellet.

I don’t know the situation of your hawk’s condition but force feeding is not normal or the fact he won’t feed on his own.

I would maybe get an avian specialist vet to take a look for a second opinion.

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The vet I went to was indeed an avian specialist. [Link] Been with him for a couple months now and today was my 6th trip. Over the course my bird has his shots, bloodwork, x-rays and feces samples and they all checked out to be ok. The final verdict (today) was that sometimes birds are just fussy. It's not normal but he says that it does happen.

I have given thoughts to go to this other avian vet that's an hour drive away but from the reviews I have gather, something tells me that it's not as good as the current one I'm with. And, I've already spent alot of money already with this vet.

Oh and I apologize for hijacking this thread, if I need to start another thread I'll give more details about the situation.

Anywho, the place that GolfRyder mentioned earliar http://www.anfrozenfoods.co.uk/page25.html seems to include the fur/feather/bones/organs with the Course Minced (8mm) option. I know it's all minced up but since they can't digest the furs and bones I'm guessing it should throw the pellet as normal?
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