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Old 04-09-2017, 07:25 PM
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Default Lure machine.

Has anyone had bought or have the bull x mini lure machine, remote control unit model ?
With out being blunt I am not interested in any other unit apart from the unit stated. can be bought for ú549 with two continuous pulleys. appreciate any feed back.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:05 PM
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Well no reply which is probably a good thing as it may seem no one has bought one.
I did and it lasted 10 minutes before burning out the motor pulling a fox tail on a 100 yd run.
I will not go into detail but after looking inside of the machine I was rather disgusted at what was used and how it was fabricated, just a hint of what I mean is that the 12v dry cell battery was cable tied to the motor .
I decided to make a small compact machine,portable and a battery life of over 5 hours unlike 30 minutes , capable of pulling more than 6 grams, I can pull a constant half pound.
Variable speed , 0- 60mph with a remote range of 200 yds. Has a reel capable of holding a 1000 yds and a continuous pulley wheel and 2 continous pulley bobbings.
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Old 09-09-2017, 02:15 PM
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Always said you are one very clever man
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Old 09-09-2017, 03:13 PM
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Thats so so brilliant
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:50 PM
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Wow! Top marks....

I looked at the Bullx system last year, although the price tag meant I was never going to purchase one, I did think they looked a great piece kit & robust?

Did you have any follow up service with them?

Has yours cost you less to produce, if you don't mind me asking...?
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:08 PM
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i can not comment on bull x ,s larger machine but the mini machine in my opinion is not fit for purpose. although in appearance it looked the dogs danglys but as said the internals were pathetic. the motor is a r/c plane starter and produces good rpm but no torque hence it can only pull a lure of 6 grams, these motors run the armature on dry bearings in the outer plastic housing and are of a loose fit resulting in immense vibration once a pulley wheel is attached. all the components inside looked as if they were superglued in place. flash box but poor guts.
I am not out to run bull x down but I shelled out ú549 and was horrified at exactly how it was put together using cheap components.it was sent back and I was refunded in full.
I was in no way interested in a replacement unit.
the one I have made and bearing in mind this is the first try mock up but fully working in every aspect can be made smaller but it is still very portable , it measures
15 x 8 x 8 but can be made 13 x 7 x 7. it has a 24v 300w
motor of which is no bigger than the r/c motor in the bull x mini and battery life is over 5 hours. it provides more torque hence being able to pull a far heavier load. the bull x mini lasts an approximate 30 minutes. in easy terms my machine is capable of pulling in over 10 miles of line and more at full speed. produces speed between 0 and 60 + mph ,I have yet to weigh it but weight can be remedied yet still easy to carry with one hand . I have used heavier rated control boards, relays, etc and with a remote unit beyond 200 yrds, bull x = 60 yrds
removable pulleys and can be fitted with a larger pulley reel, bull x reels on mini cannot be removed.
non snag system, very easy once you apply a few brain cells , basically imagine when a fishing reel gets over loaded with line very quickly, this does not happen with mine. I use a 240 v plug in charger, small male pin port at back of box. I used it for over 5 hours with out charge and still showed 19 volts remaining on meter.
total cost around ú140
I use it to train my dog and will start using it for fitness purposes with my red.

Easy to make , very robust indeed but you need the use of a lathe for pulley wheel stepped spindle.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the details. Atb
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''need a lathe'', -suggest dowel in chuck of a drill and rotate against a rasp.. good luck
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I considered making my own lure machine.
I got as far as getting a cheap RC Plane starter motor and attached a make shift spool to it.
Unfortunately I have still to finish it. THe spool is not very secure and I will need to make/buy another one for it.
The motor you used seems to be a better option.
As you say the Plane starter motor doesn't have much torque but it could be used with a light lure I suppose.
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i can not comment on bull x ,s larger machine but the mini machine in my opinion is not fit for purpose. although in appearance it looked the dogs danglys but as said the internals were pathetic. the motor is a r/c plane starter and produces good rpm but no torque hence it can only pull a lure of 6 grams, these motors run the armature on dry bearings in the outer plastic housing and are of a loose fit resulting in immense vibration once a pulley wheel is attached. all the components inside looked as if they were superglued in place. flash box but poor guts.
I am not out to run bull x down but I shelled out ú549 and was horrified at exactly how it was put together using cheap components.it was sent back and I was refunded in full.
I was in no way interested in a replacement unit.
the one I have made and bearing in mind this is the first try mock up but fully working in every aspect can be made smaller but it is still very portable , it measures
15 x 8 x 8 but can be made 13 x 7 x 7. it has a 24v 300w
motor of which is no bigger than the r/c motor in the bull x mini and battery life is over 5 hours. it provides more torque hence being able to pull a far heavier load. the bull x mini lasts an approximate 30 minutes. in easy terms my machine is capable of pulling in over 10 miles of line and more at full speed. produces speed between 0 and 60 + mph ,I have yet to weigh it but weight can be remedied yet still easy to carry with one hand . I have used heavier rated control boards, relays, etc and with a remote unit beyond 200 yrds, bull x = 60 yrds
removable pulleys and can be fitted with a larger pulley reel, bull x reels on mini cannot be removed.
non snag system, very easy once you apply a few brain cells , basically imagine when a fishing reel gets over loaded with line very quickly, this does not happen with mine. I use a 240 v plug in charger, small male pin port at back of box. I used it for over 5 hours with out charge and still showed 19 volts remaining on meter.
total cost around ú140
I use it to train my dog and will start using it for fitness purposes with my red.

easy to make , very robust indeed but you need the use of a lathe for pulley wheel stepped spindle.
Are you planning on selling these or are you willing to pass on the instructions on how to make them?
Thanks
Tom
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