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Old 24-09-2015, 12:26 PM
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Default Which sub-species or hybrid ?

Hello,

Can you have a look at the 4 enclosed pictures and tell me what sub-species it is or may be it is a hybrid ?

The bird is 12 year-old female and her weight is 650 grams.

Thanks for your comments
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Old 24-09-2015, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

Who bred her?
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Old 24-09-2015, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

A breeder in Germany. I hope to get an answer from him next week if he can retrieve his files.
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Old 24-09-2015, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

I would say per/barbary????
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Old 25-09-2015, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

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Hello,

Can you have a look at the 4 enclosed pictures and tell me what sub-species it is or may be it is a hybrid ?

The bird is 12 year-old female and her weight is 650 grams.

Thanks for your comments
Hi Lannier - Brookei.

Gerry x
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

While still awaiting the breeder's answer, 1 question: what is the minimum observed flying weight for a peregrinus peregrinus female ?
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

I am 99% sure it is a male, not a female. A tiercel of possibly mixed heritage. At 650g it is either fairly large or over flying weight.

Andy
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Which sub-species or hybrid ?

Thanks Andy but the bird is definately a femelle for 2 reasons:

a) the CITES document states the bird as a femelle;

b) the previous owner (he got the bird for 3 years) assured me that the bird copulated with a male and gave eggs that turned out to be fertile.
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Old 04-10-2015, 01:10 PM
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Another picture taken today.
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Old 04-10-2015, 04:15 PM
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While still awaiting the breeder's answer, 1 question: what is the minimum observed flying weight for a peregrinus peregrinus female ?
Hi.The hunting weight for peregrinus peregrinus is DEFENATELY not 650gr.Ewen brookay hunt on higher wayt.IF this bird is female-something is wrong with ,,herr''.I sugest you to check sex ,and not belive allways to people.Regard.
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