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Old 18-02-2008, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: My Kestrel just wanna eat live prey......

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I've got to say the single most useless piece of information to give on here is to 'find someone in your area' i'm pretty sure he'd have already tried, and thats why he's asking on here... help the guy out... don't pass him on.
Thanks J.P!!!
You're absoluttely right......
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Old 18-02-2008, 12:57 AM
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Hi mate dont know if this will help you at all but no one on here will advise you to lower your birds weight as they dont know what condition your kestral is in.I think if there is not a mentor in your area to teach you you will need a
Good book to read first before even thinking of training your kestral.
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Old 18-02-2008, 01:03 AM
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i repeat, is that ok to leave him without food for one day.....

or how to drop his weight??
I would offer him food, but if he doesnt go for it after say 10 min, i would take it away and not offer it again for a few hours. Without seeing the bird to know what its condition is I can't tell you its perfectly fine to not feed him for a day. My bird only at a bite of quail for the first 24 hrs off the trap but i offered her food 3 or 4 times. Do you have a scales? You will need a scales (1g, or preferably 0.1g) in order to keep your bird healthy.

Here are a couple threads about training kestrels (both are American kestrels which are smaller than common kestrels)

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37946
Http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23176
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Default Re: My Kestrel just wanna eat live prey......

If it eats live food but will not eat dead food, don't give it the option. If you only offer dead food, he will be forced to take it by hunger. Stick with the dead food. Buy a cheap digital scale, and write his weight down morning and night. Try the training methods mentioned on the two links that were posted for you.
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Old 18-02-2008, 06:16 AM
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As a matter of interest what live food are you feeding sorry if you've already said i may of missed it?
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Old 18-02-2008, 07:01 AM
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Feed lean meet. Do not feed like pigeon or other very rich food and feed less. You obviously need to keep a weight on him/her and only drop her grams at a time. Her response will change and she will eat. Birds are not stupid and they will NOT starve themselves to death unless they are sick. It's hard to give you advise if you don't know what you are doing. Sorry mate.

I have an American Kestrel and he is about 83 grams (not that the kestrels are same size) and was trapped at 97 grams. This is just so that you see the drop weight from wild to responsive and flying to me/lure.

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Birds that small must eat once a day or you may have serious problems. If the bird eats live food find something that it eats live and kill it. Open the carcass and feed the bird on the fist, then switch to smaller pieces of meat. I too agree with weasle that the bird may be too fat, but to know for sure you need to be weighing it daily and feeling the keel to determine how thin/fat the bird is.
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Old 18-02-2008, 07:28 AM
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Personally, I find this thread just as interesting and concerning as the ones by 'Phoenixbetta'.
My advice would be to let the bird go.
If you are hoping to learn how to accurately judge weights, training techniques and nutritional requirements from an internet forum..then something is not okay. I would not advise negotiating this learning curve with a kestrel....but you probably already know that!!

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43035


...Rene.
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Old 18-02-2008, 09:32 AM
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as a matter of interest what live food are you feeding sorry if you've already said i may of missed it?
I've mentioned it, it's small bird.....

I've weighted him, it's 180grams now....

Maybe i should always give him a dead meat.... so he doesnt have any choice....
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Old 20-02-2008, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: My Kestrel just wanna eat live prey......

Finally......
My kestrel ate meat for the first time.......

The point is dont give him an option......
Firstly, i didnt feed him for one whole day....

And the next day, i gave him meat... And he ate it......
One step forward!!!!
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