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Old 19-12-2017, 11:54 AM
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My peregrine has a beak problem. I don't what it is. I took advise by several vet's. But nobody has seen this before. It is no bacterial problem. I gave her antibiotica, but it id not work.
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Old 19-12-2017, 04:22 PM
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Hi,

This is interesting. If several avian vets failed to identify the problem then it is likely to be quite rare surely. I have no training in Raptor medicine but I have a couple of ideas, whether they be wrong or right we have been doing topics on health and husbandry at college so this is by no means fact, just suggestions.

The first is a non-bacterial infection. You say antibiotics were already administered which 95% rules out that Bacteria is the infection type. I would say its unlikely to be viral considering that it looks like a local infection of the tissues rather than a whole body infection. Beaks are made of a substance called keratin which dries and hardens to add durability and structure. This is organised in a structure of layers so any damage that occurs usually heals over time, clearly not in the case of your bird. If an infection is the cause of the problem then it is most likely to be either fungal or parasitic, fungal being the more likely of the two. I am only saying this because it is localised to an area on the beak, presuming this isn't occurring anywhere else like the talons? The fungus may be trapped between the layers of keratin making them softer and exposing the colour change. Does the area feel moist and/or flaky?

The second potential cause I can think of which is less likely to infection is a deficiency of some sort. It is proven that blood calcium levels influence the production of keratin, in that a lack of calcium would reduce the production of keratin. This therefore means that although the beak has the ability to heal without any assistance, as stated above, without the necessary amounts of calcium, required levels of keratin cannot be produced in order for the injury to heal or fight a potential infection.

Is this potentially a result of damage to the beak and an inability to heal? There is also the possibility, just to make the matter more confusing, that the two have worked in unison in that a deficiency in calcium has lead to an inability of the beak to heal which has allowed an infection to occur. I'm sure that the vets have already said to observe your bird closely and monitor the spread. Perhaps it may be as simple as an alteration to the diet to provide more calcium or add a supplement to support.

These are purely suggestions and by no means a diagnosis. I have some general knowledge in animal medicine and and interest in Birds of Prey, I simply combined the two. If you gain any further insight into what the problem is then please update, I would be interested to know. I hope this may have helped in some way and I've explained clearly enough

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Old 19-12-2017, 05:09 PM
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Thanks for your answer.

I was wondering because nobody has seen this before.

The bird is in a topcondition. Everyday i am going out.
The spot is not weaky. At the moment i use honeyointment.
I also had the suggestion to give the bird biotine, as supplement of vitamins.
Another option could be to make a fungus culture of some spooings of the beak.

Spooings op the beak
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Old 19-12-2017, 05:17 PM
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Thanks for your answer.

I was wondering because nobody has seen this before.

The bird is in a topcondition. Everyday i am going out.
The spot is not weaky. At the moment i use honeyointment.
I also had the suggestion to give the bird biotine, as supplement of vitamins.
Another option could be to make a fungus culture of some spooings of the beak.

spooings op the beak
The vitamin supplement may help yes. Taking a fungus culture and sending it off for analysis would surely identify the condition/issue involved which would hopefully result in more targeted treatment. I hope you manage to deal with it either way.

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Bradley
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Old 29-12-2017, 12:35 PM
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Who can help me??

My peregrine has a beak problem. I don't what it is. I took advise by several vet's. But nobody has seen this before. It is no bacterial problem. I gave her antibiotica, but it id not work.
View the pictures. The white spot is increasing.
hi oppie.I can help you for sure but you must ta


Ke my advis seriosely ! Give your falcon Lamisil 1/6 of the tablet per day .After 2 days you will see that white colour on falcons beek change in yellow reedish .that mean problem is solved.Even that givw hem medicine for two more days a d don't worry.Big regard
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Old 30-12-2017, 12:31 PM
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Thanks.

I will try it and i will give you response afterwards
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