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Old 21-12-2009, 11:34 PM
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Zach,

PM me your address. I have a couple of good books. One of them is "Falconry,Principles and Practice" by Roger Upton. If they are what you are looking for , you can give me the going rate. If not , read them and send them back.

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Old 21-12-2009, 11:46 PM
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Can anyone tell me some good game hawking books on falcons im going to buy a few for Christmas.
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Zach
Ps. I have already read 'Training Birds Of Prey', and 'Falconry and Hawking'
Dear Zach

You have strangely managed to get some of the top falconers to take an interest in your quest. Thats a rare thing on this hostile forum. (Im excluded of course, just reognizing!)

Kind regards,

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Old 22-12-2009, 12:10 AM
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Thankyou for your regards Jannes, i aim to listen to the people i think are experienced and try to soak this information up.Tony James being one of them, in my opinion this is a great benefit to me because i know he is very highly regarded. There are others but they do not use the forum and sometimes i do not blame them, however they are not in any means in need of alot experience and prefer to stay clear of the forum. My interest are with the birds themselves even though this is not vice versa.
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Old 22-12-2009, 08:32 AM
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About to go and look at some more game land.
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Old 22-12-2009, 08:41 AM
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And like most specialist guides, it's use is limited until the basics are understood.
Perhaps Blaine's Falconry might have been worth mentioning, or better, Roger Upton's Principles and Practice.

Best wishes,

Tony.
Hi Zach

I agree with most of the posts on your thread and would like to second what Tony has said not only in the quote post but also in his other posts. Personally I wish things where different in the UK, but all in time.

I notice from your Profile this will be your first bird. If I understand you correctly you have a potential mentor on hand but due to time constraints he might not be able to assist you, hopefully he could recommend someone else that could. I'm assuming by the meet you attended you are a member of a club, if not I would strongly recommend that you join one.

Re your aspirations of game hawking. As pointed out its not one of the easiest disciplines of falconry. There is nothing (IMO) that comes close to good game hawking by the same token there is nothing worse than bad game hawking.

A suggestion if I may. Don't underestimate the value of short wing hunting as a very important step towards game hawking - nothing teaches one field craft skills like running after those "stumpy winged" things. Obviously a dog pointing dog is worth its weight in gold, and should be trained and hunting long before even attempting to take up game hawking.

Good luck with your journey.
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Old 22-12-2009, 08:53 AM
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No he is not my mentor initially, i Volunteer at a centre and the Manager of the centre is friends with Tony James. I have been out with him and his peregrine several times its amazing to watch, the thing is i know hawks are a great way to getting to progressing to game hawking but i have no interest in them really, its not like i would not go out with one if i was offered but, falcons are what do it for me. Lanner is what iv'e been told to go for by someone who is very experienced and he told me to get one instead of a hawk after analysing my interests in falconry. The problem is its all fine getting Lanner but then how do i get into hunting,maybe i should learn with a Lanner for a few years and then go onto have a gamehawk. But what other ways of hunting is possible with a Lanner? And pursuit hawking is not one of them.
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Old 22-12-2009, 09:04 AM
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Zach...I got a copt of 'Gamehawk' by Turner & Haslen if you want it.
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Old 22-12-2009, 09:19 AM
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Thanks that's a generous offer.
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Old 22-12-2009, 09:22 AM
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Zach...I got a copt of 'Gamehawk' by Turner & Haslen if you want it.
Col.
I would recommend to go for that offer if you really want to get this book. It is normally really not offered for sale anymore, just occasionally. Although some falconers up here will be willing to sell i guess if you ask for it explicitely.

If you understand german, the german falconry book " die kraehenbeize" by Jurgen Schuster is also a GREAT read! It is about crow hawking with peregrine falcon. Then with regards to German language falconry books " ein beizvogel fuers gebusch" (german translation of a hawk for the bush) is also highly recommended, together with the general falconry book " falknerei- ein leitfaden fuer die falknerpruefung" (a very broad topic book with excellent sources for beginners mainly but it is just a nice great book).

Last but not least i want to VERY much recommend the " the flying of falcons book" by Ed Pitcher and Ricardo Velarde. This is without any doubt a GREAT excellent book, possibly even better and greater than " gamehawk" / " gamehawk field and moor". I say so having both of the books and the last i received just yesterday as it is brandnew book being published just this weeks. I started reading and I am VERY much impressed by contents of it.

"the flying of falcons" without any doubts will become one of the top notch falconry books, one of the best ever written. Because it simply is. Trust me on that
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Old 22-12-2009, 09:38 AM
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I will except that offer, how much do you want for the book?

Thankyou very much
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